Autsch, Zitate vermasselt
:(@SiegfriedenIch weiß ja nicht, ob du auch auf TJMK undPMF liest. Dieser groundreport "Artikel" ist eine Zusammenfassung der Spekulationen, die auf diesen Boards und in den Kommentar Sektionen von diversen Online-Artikeln darüber angestellt werden, wie Amanda Knox das Rennen um die "mildernden Umstände" die ein Geständnis vielleicht zur Folge haben könnte, denn gewinnen könnte.
Aber sehen wir uns den "Artikel" mal im Detail an:
HansM schrieb:Amanda Knox, the 27 year old woman who was re-convicted last January of the murder of Meredith Kercher in Italy, is planning to accuse her ex-boyfriend of murder very soon, according to reliable sources close to the Knox family, the PR firm Gogerty-Marriott and close to the Amanda Knox lawyers.
Ich wundere mich, dass der Autor für das "re-convicted" auf den einschlägigen Seiten nicht gerügt wird, deren Mantra ist doch, dass Nencini nur Massei bestätigt hat???
Ohne hier in die spekulative Wissenschaft der Aussagenanalyse abdriften zu wollen frage ich mich, warum der Autor seine Quellen vorsichtshalber als "reliable" etikettiert? Und wenn man ihm denn glauben will ist Amanda Knox ausschließlich von Verrätern umgeben...
HansM schrieb:Since Raffaele Sollecito changed his version of events during the night of the murder last week, Curt Knox has been very angry and agitated according to our sources. Amanda Knox is also furious. Raffaele Sollecito said on July 2 in Rome ”that the evidence showed Amanda was not with him at his home at the time of the killing of Ms Kercher”…The latest strategy from the Raffaele’s defense is basically canceling Amanda Knox’s alibi during the night of the murder, a move that infuriated Curt Knox and left Amanda without an alibi during the night of the murder.
- ”that the evidence showed Amanda was not with him at his home at the time of the killing of Ms Kercher”, dummerweise verschweigt der Autor, dass Sollecito hie Nencini zitiert...
- Der Autor scheint ein eifriger TJMK Leser zu sein, er hat zumindest deren Sichtweise auf Curt Knox verinnerlicht
http://truejustice.org/ee/index.php?/tjmk/comments/should_the_amanda_knox_defense_maybe_point_the_finger_at_an_angry_dadd/ (Archiv-Version vom 20.07.2014)HansM schrieb:Curt Knox’s seeming blind rage at Edda during their marriage and for years after are an open secret among some in Seattle. He apparently had one of the worst records in the entire US in not paying child support to Edda for Amanda and Deanna, and had again and again to be taken to Superior Court by Edda to be forced to make his monthly payments.
Here are two public records showing two instances of him being taken to Superior Court by Edda.
And we are told that Curt Knox was counseled by one or more judges to get himself some anger management therapy. Apparently he wasn’t formally required to take anger management therapy. He may have done so, though there seems no record that he ever did.
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Curt Knox was apparently the one who shushed Amanda Knox at their first meeting in Capanne Prison, Curt Knox was apparently the one who misled her about the world-wide skepticisim against her (she didnt know about that until she came out of prison), and Curt Knox was apparently the one who drove the nasty PR bus - and most recently hosted all of the worst of the rabid PR nuts (including Sforza and Fischer) in Seattle.
Curt Knox has apparently consistently instructed the defense lawyers and PR honchos to keep the pedal to the floor, even though Chris Mellas once openly argued against that. Amanda Knox may have pushed the knife in, but Curt Knox for five years has not come clean about his own possible role in any mental condition.
Interessant, was TJMK aus zwei Gerichtsunterlagen bezüglich eines Unterhaltsstreits alles herauslesen kann. Man beachte: "are an open secret among some in Seattle", "He apparently had one of the worst records in the entire US in not paying child support", "And we are told..." "Curt Knox was apparently " x3...
HansM schrieb:So where was Amanda Knox if she was not with Raffaele?? Amanda felt she had to make a move, and she is making a move.
Welch Drama... Quellen?
HansM schrieb: Curt Knox had hired a PR firm 7 years ago – Gogerty Marriott – based in Seattle to deal with the growing interest in this murder case. This PR firm hired many people to run a campaign – online and in the media – to promote the idea among Americans that Amanda Knox was convicted wrongfully by a corrupt Italian court. This campaign was very aggressive and resulted in a lot of misleading information being promoted online and in the media to make this case look like a wrongful conviction.
Der erste Satz stimmt, für das "hired many people to run a campaign" und "resulted in a lot of misleading information being promoted online" hätte ich gerne "Beweise".
HansM schrieb:According to the Italian justice system and the 2 judges and 2 different courts who convicted Amanda and Raffaele of murder, there is strong evidence of their guilt and the evidence was detailed in their long report which convicted Amanda and Raffaele. Amanda and Raffaele were convicted for a 2nd time last January, Amanda was convicted for 28 years in jail and Raffaele for 25 years. They are now both appealing their convictions since last May 2014. If their appeals are rejected, both will be sent to jail. Raffaele si already in Italy and will go directly to jail if the appeal is rejected, Amanda remains free in Seattle and she could be extradited if Italy is requesting her extradition.
...und natürlich sind Richter in Italien "unfehlbar" (ein Zertifikat vom Papst ist Voraussetzung für die Einstellung... Wie hat Richter Hellmann das nur bekommen?)...
HansM schrieb:Since Raffaele’s latest defense move – canceling Amanda’s only alibi – the Knox strategy changed:
According to our sources close the the Knox family, close to the Gogerty-Marriott PR firm and close to Amanda Knox’s lawyers, the Knox camp has decided that they had no other choice but to accuse Raffaele of the murder of Meredith Kercher. Amanda is now opening up and she gave some new detailed information about what happened during the night of the murder.
Info über die "Quellen" kopiert und eingefügt von oben, "the Knox camp", wer ist das genau, ihre Familie, ihre Anwälte?
"Amanda is now opening up and she gave some new detailed information about what happened during the night of the murder."[/quote]
Ja, klar, das ist etwas, worauf vor allem einige TJMK Poster seit Amanda Knoxs Freilassung hoffen, nämlich, dass sie zu ihrem eigenen Besten, der Heilung ihrer Seele, die ihr von ihrem bösen Vater verwehrt wird, ihre Beteiligung an dem Mord gesteht...
HansM schrieb:The Knox camp is planning to compile some documents with some of the new information given by Amanda and will approach discreetly the Italian courts (Cassation) with these new elements. Our sources close to the new plan said that Amanda is now accusing Raffaele of murder and that they were both in the house during the murder. She now is saying that she went back to her house that night to buy some drugs from Rudy Guede. When she arrived home, Meredith was furious and angry at Amanda about some money which was stolen from her room. Meredith was apparently very very angry. Amanda then left – scared- and came back with Raffaele 30 minutes later.
Raffaele tried to calm her down but did not succeed. Meredith was becoming hysterical and violent, according to the new revelations by Amanda. Meredith became so violent that she started to attack Amanda, and then Raffaele stopped her. Meredith then grabbed a knife and fought with Raffaele. Then Raffaele killed Meredith with the knife and he also lost control in the process and slashed Meredith’s throat despite Amanda telling him to stop, according to the new revelations by Amanda. Amanda is now saying that she witnessed the whole thing from the kitchen and covered her ears at time because of the screams.
After the murder, Amanda decided to help Raffaele and clean up the whole scene. They both organized the set up and wanted to make it look like a burglary done by Rudy Guede. Still according to Amanda, she has been defending Raffaele for all these years because she was in love with him, and she was only a witness of Meredith’s murder but had nothing to do with it. Amanda is changing her story now because, according to our sources, she felt betrayed by Raffaele’s latest defense move.
Wirklich? Wer auf PMF liest, weiß, woher dieser Schwachsinn kommt... Die Revisionsanträge sind längst eingereicht. Oder will uns der Autor etwa glauben machen, dass im italienischen Rechtssystem "gemauschelt" wird?
HansM schrieb:Amanda said that she now wants to tell the whole truth about the murder committed by Raffaele and she does not want to lie anymore just to protect Raffaele.
Curt Knox and Amanda both came up with that new defense plan and they both want Raffaele to be brought to justice for the murder of Meredith Kercher. That is what they are expressing in the documents that they plan to send to the Italian courts.
Amanda is now saying to her family that she is tired to lie just to defend Raffaele who committed that murder, and since she felt betrayed by Raffaele’s latest move, she decided to tell the truth discreetly to the Italian court thorugh her lawyers in Italy. She is also providing proofs of what she is saying to the Italian court. We could not know more about the proofs Amanda was talking about.
Now that Raffaele has changed his story and cancelled Amanda’s alibi the night of the murder, Amanda Knox is now planning to tell her own side of the story discreetly to the Italian court – anytime we were told.
Der Autor sollte als Drehbuchschreiber bei Daily Soaps anheuern, ...oder "richtige" Quellen liefern...
HansM schrieb:This case is far from being over.
Ein bisschen Wahrheit zum Schluss...
:(Hintergrund Info: groundreport war bisher die Plattform, über die vor allem Unterstützer von Amanda Knox und Raffaele Sollecito ihre Artikel publiziert haben...