Christlicher Terror - Eine neue Gefahr?

@KaraMurat
"Es ist vielleicht kein ausgewogener Text, den die beiden geschrieben haben, kein differenzierender Besinnungsaufsatz. Samuel und Hannes beziehen Stellung. Aber eines ist der Text ganz sicher nicht: eine Hetzschrift."

...denn mit hetzschriften kennt sich der spiel aus! nur stellung beziehen haben die im laufe der zeit vergessen.

ich würde niemandem glauben der ein world of warcraft bild hat.
(blizzard will die welt erobern)

http://www.spiegel.de/schulspiegel/wissen/0,1518,596970,00.html Das ist Terror? Sach ma haste nen Dachschaden? Wieso frage ich? Es ist evident, dass Du nicht alle Tassen im Schrank hast.
Das ist Terror: http://www.kath.net/detail.php?id=23730
http://www.ucanews.com/2009/07/31/christians-flee-after-muslims-destroy-village/
http://www.truthtube.tv/play.php?vid=2659
http://www.kopten-stimme.de/startseite.htm

@Feindfahrt
wenns darum geht mit Links zu schmeissen, das kann ich auch.
http://sciencenotes.wordpress.com/2008/06/24/the-murder-of-larry-hooper/
Wikipedia: The Lambs of Christ
Wikipedia: Bombenanschlag auf das Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City

@atheist

'The group claims to be nonviolent.[2] However, members of the group have been linked to several incidents of violence, notably James Kopp, who murdered physician Barnett Slepian in 1998.'

Damit kommen wir mit dem ersten Link zusammen auf ganze zwei Morde, deren religöses ("christliches") Motiv nicht einwandfrei geklärt ist.

'Über das Anschlagsmotiv bestehen weiterhin Spekulationen.'

*lol*

Guter Konter! Echt!

(/ironie)

da lommt man problemlos auch auf mehr.
Wikipedia: Eric Rudolph
Wikipedia: Army of God (USA)

Murders

In the U.S., violence directed toward abortion providers has killed at least nine people, including five doctors, two clinic employees, a security guard, and a clinic escort.[5]

* March 10, 1993: Dr. David Gunn of Pensacola, Florida was fatally shot during a protest. He had been the subject of wanted-style posters distributed by Operation Rescue in the summer of 1992. Michael F. Griffin was found guilty of Dr. Gunn's murder and was sentenced to life in prison.
* July 29, 1994: Dr. John Britton and James Barrett, a clinic escort, were both shot to death outside of another facility in Pensacola. Rev. Paul Jennings Hill was charged with the killings, received a death sentence, and was executed September 3, 2003.
* December 30, 1994: Two receptionists, Shannon Lowney and Lee Ann Nichols, were killed in two clinic attacks in Brookline, Massachusetts. John Salvi, who prior to his arrest was distributing pamphlets from Human Life International,[6] was arrested and confessed to the killings. He died in prison and guards found his body under his bed with a plastic garbage bag tied around his head. Salvi had also confessed to a non-lethal attack in Norfolk, Virginia days before the Brookline killings.
* January 29, 1998: Robert Sanderson, an off-duty police officer who worked as a security guard at an abortion clinic in Birmingham, Alabama, was killed when his workplace was bombed. Eric Robert Rudolph, who was also responsible for the 1996 Centennial Olympic Park bombing, was charged with the crime and received two life sentences as a result.
* October 23, 1998: Dr. Barnett Slepian was shot to death at his home in Amherst, New York. His was the last in a series of similar shootings against providers in Canada and northern New York state which were all likely committed by James Kopp. Kopp was convicted of Dr. Slepian's murder after finally being apprehended in France in 2001.
* May 31, 2009: Dr. George Tiller was shot and killed as he served as an usher at his church in Wichita, Kansas.[7]

Another doctor, George Patterson, was shot and killed in Mobile, Alabama on August 21, 1993, but it is uncertain whether his death was the direct result of his profession or rather a robbery.[8]

[edit] Attempted murder, assault, and threats

According to statistics gathered by the National Abortion Federation (NAF), an organization of abortion providers, since 1977 in the United States and Canada, there have been 17 attempted murders, 383 death threats, 153 incidents of assault or battery, and 3 kidnappings committed against abortion providers.[9] The attempted murders were:[5][10][11]

* July 12, 1992: Musician Kurt Cobain of the band Nirvana was a vocal supporter of the pro-choice movement, participating in the Rock for Choice movement organized by the band L7. Cobain would receive death threats from pro-life acitivsts for doing so, one activist threatening that Cobain would be shot the moment he stepped on stage.[12]
* August 19, 1993: Dr. George Tiller was shot outside of an abortion facility in Wichita, Kansas. Shelley Shannon was charged with the crime and received an 11-year prison sentence (20 years were later added for arson and acid attacks on clinics).
* July 29, 1994: June Barret was shot in the same attack which claimed the lives of James Barrett, her husband, and Dr. John Britton.
* December 30, 1994: Five individuals were wounded in the same-day shootings which killed Shannon Lowney and Lee Ann Nichols.
* December 18, 1996: Dr. Calvin Jackson of New Orleans, Louisiana was stabbed 15 times, losing 4 pints of blood. Donald Cooper was charged with second-degree attempted murder and sentenced to 20 years.[13]
* October 28, 1997: Dr. David Gandell of Rochester, New York was injured by flying glass when a shot was fired through the window of his home.[14]
* January 29, 1998: Emily Lyons, a nurse, was severely injured in the bombing which also killed Robert Sanderson.

[edit] Anthrax threats

The first letters claiming to contain anthrax were mailed to U.S. clinics in October 1998, a few days after the Slepian shooting, and since then, there have been a total of 655 such bioterror threats made against abortion providers. None of the "anthrax" in these cases was real.[10][15]

* November 2001: After the genuine 2001 anthrax attacks, Clayton Waagner mailed hoax letters containing a white powder to 554 clinics. Waagner was convicted of 51 charges relating to the anthrax scare on December 3, 2003.

[edit] Arson, bombing, and property crime

According to NAF, since 1977 in the United States and Canada, property crimes committed against abortion providers have included 41 bombings, 173 arsons, 91 attempted bombings or arsons, 619 bomb threats, 1630 incidents of trespassing, 1264 incidents of vandalism, and 100 attacks with butyric acid ("stink bombs").[9] The first clinic arson occurred in Oregon in March 1976 and the first bombing occurred in February 1978 in Ohio.[16] More recent incidents have included:[5]

* December 25, 1984: An abortion clinic and two physicians' offices in Pensacola, Florida were bombed in the early morning of Christmas Day by a quartet of young people (Matt Goldsby, Jimmy Simmons, Kathy Simmons, Kaye Wiggins) who later called the bombings "a gift to Jesus on his birthday."[17][18][19]
* October 1999: Martin Uphoff set fire to a Planned Parenthood clinic in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, causing US$100 worth of damage. He was later sentenced to 60 months in prison.[20]
* May 28, 2000: An arson at a clinic in Concord, New Hampshire on resulted in damage estimated at US$20,000. The case remains unsolved.[21]
* September 30, 2000: A Catholic priest drove his car into the Northern Illinois Health Clinic after learning that the FDA had approved the drug RU-486. He pulled out an ax before being shot at by a security guard.[22]
* June 11, 2001: An unsolved bombing at a clinic in Tacoma, Washington destroyed a wall, resulting in US$6000 in damages. [20]
* July 4, 2005: A clinic Palm Beach, Florida was the target of an arson. The case remains open.[20]
* December 12, 2005: Patricia Hughes and Jeremy Dunahoe threw a Molotov cocktail at a clinic in Shreveport, Louisiana. The device missed the building and no damage was caused. In August 2006, Hughes was sentenced to six years in prison, and Dunahoe to one year. Hughes claimed the bomb was a “memorial lamp” for an abortion she had had there. [23]
* September 13, 2006 David McMenemy of Rochester Hills, Michigan crashed his car into the Edgerton Women's Care Center in Davenport, Iowa. He then doused the lobby in gasoline and then started a fire. McMenemy committed these acts in the belief that the center was performing abortions, however Edgerton is not an abortion clinc.[24]
* April 25, 2007: A package left at a women's health clinic in Austin, Texas contained an explosive device capable of inflicting serious injury or death. A bomb squad detonated the device after evacuating the building. Paul Ross Evans (who had a criminal record for armed robbery and theft) was found guilty of the crime.
* May 9, 2007: An unidentified person deliberately set fire to a Planned Parenthood clinic in Virginia Beach, Virginia.
* December 6, 2007: Chad Altman and Sergio Baca were arrested for the arson of Dr. Curtis Boyd's clinic in Albuquerque. Altman’s girlfriend had scheduled an appointment for an abortion at the clinic.
* January 22, 2009 Matthew L. Derosia, 32, who was reported to have had a history of mental illness [28] rammed a SUV into the front entrance of a Planned Parenthood clinic in St. Paul, Minnesota

Wikipedia: Anti-abortion violence

Ist doch net dein ernst, diese infantilen "Konter-links." Peinlich, gar debil.
Weder qualitative noch quantitativ sind deine Einwaende ernst zu nehmen (wie bereits von einem anderen Teilnehmer festgestellt). Also vermuell hier nicht den Thread, und meld dich wieder wenn Du ein Equivalent hierzu: http://forum09.faithfreedom.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3934&start=0 gefunden hast.

Was ich paradox finde:

Man selbst kommt ja laut den Schriften als Gläubiger Mensch ins Paradis. Jene, die nicht an Gott oder Allah glauben, werden in den Feuersee geworfen.
Wo liegt also der Sinn Menschen mit Gewalt zu zwingen ins Himmelreich zu kommen? Wärs als Terrorist nicht viel gemeiner die frohe Botschaft für sich zu behalten und den ganzen Tag nur Fern zu sehen?

@A.Darko
geniale frage^^

Dein Verstaendniss einer Hoelle, indem Hoellenqualen erlitten werden gehen auf den perversen und sadistischen Mohammad zurueck, nicht auf Jesus. Es ist Mohammad der im Koran detailliert Hoellenquallen beschreibt und androht. So kann dich "heisse Pisse" die deine Innereien verbrueht erwarten. Die Wunden werden dann von Allah geheilt, um dich dann von neuem zu Foltern. Das ist der Islam.

Im Christentum hat sich diese Idee auch verbreitet, im Mittelalter, woher die bloss die Idee bekamen. Im NT gibt es nichts dergleichen. In den Offenbarungen des Johannes und der Petrus schon eher, diese sind aber nicht Teil der Bibel, und auch nicht vergleichbar mit dem Sadismus des Islam.

Also schoen trennen bevor hier alles ueber einen Haufen geworfen wird.

A.Darko schrieb:Wärs als Terrorist nicht viel gemeiner die frohe Botschaft für sich zu behalten und den ganzen Tag nur Fern zu sehen?

Westliches Fernsehen ist haram und ihr eigenes zum Kotzen. Allah sieht nicht gerne Titten im Fern.

@A.Darko

@supererdnuss

Weißte, mit ner AK rumballern aber keine Streams im Internet finden :D

@Feindfahrt

Feindfahrt schrieb:Dein Verstaendniss einer Hoelle, indem Hoellenqualen erlitten werden gehen auf den perversen und sadistischen Mohammad zurueck, nicht auf Jesus. Es ist Mohammad der im Koran detailliert Hoellenquallen beschreibt und androht. So kann dich "heisse Pisse" die deine Innereien verbrueht erwarten. Die Wunden werden dann von Allah geheilt, um dich dann von neuem zu Foltern. Das ist der Islam.

Im Christentum hat sich diese Idee auch verbreitet, im Mittelalter, woher die bloss die Idee bekamen. Im NT gibt es nichts dergleichen. In den Offenbarungen des Johannes und der Petrus schon eher, diese sind aber nicht Teil der Bibel, und auch nicht vergleichbar mit dem Sadismus des Islam.

Also schoen trennen bevor hier alles ueber einen Haufen geworfen wird.

Das Himmel-Hölle Konzept geht auch nicht auf Mohammed zurück.. Ähnliche Vorstellungen der Hölle ziehen sich durch alle möglichen Kulturkreise und sind Teil vieler Mythologien.
Übrigens ist das Konzept des Fegefeuers ne christliche Erfindung..

Feindfahrt schrieb:Dein Verstaendniss einer Hoelle, indem Hoellenqualen erlitten werden gehen auf den perversen und sadistischen Mohammad zurueck, nicht auf Jesus.

Liebe Kindlein gebt fein Acht Onkel @Feindfahrt erzaehlt eine Maerchen


Vergleichen wir mal
Matheus 18 Vers 7

Wenn deine Hand oder dein Fuß dich ärgert, so haue ihn ab und wirf ihn von dir. Es ist besser, daß du zum Leben lahm oder als Krüppel eingehst, denn daß du zwei Hände oder zwei Füße hast und wirst in das höllische Feuer geworfen.
Und so dich dein Auge ärgert, reiß es aus und wirf's von dir. Es ist dir besser, daß du einäugig zum Leben eingehest, denn daß du zwei Augen habest und wirst in das höllische Feuer geworfen

Auch dass die Offenbarung des Johassen sind zur Bibel gehoert

In meiner Alten Luther bibel satnd da uebrigens noch zum Abfall verfuehrt..
Und nicht aergert..

Ich kann also nicht arantieren dass es das Hoellische Feuer in der naechsten ausgabe immer noch gibt...

Grauenhafte Fundementalisten finden sich leider immer mehr überall in allen Religionen!!