JFK - Attentataufdeckung
18.06.2019 um 10:35@behind_eyes
@Nemon
Die Dokumentation seiner Fingerabdrücke am Gewehr, "seiner" Papiertüte am Tatort sind fragwürdig. Auch hat ihn keiner der Zeugen zuverlässig als Schützen identifiziert.
Es gibt Sichtungen Oswalds im Erdgeschoss wenige Minuten vor dem Attentat, zu einem Zeitpunkt als schon andere Zeugen eine Person mit Gewehr im Schützennest sichteten.
Abschnitt Sightings of Oswald and the Gunman
http://22november1963.org.uk/lee-harvey-oswald-alibi (Archiv-Version vom 21.07.2019)
Auch ein Detail seines Alibis bweist, dass er sich noch 5 Minuten vor den Schüssen im Erdgeschoss befand:
Er gab an, im "Domino Room" im Erdgeschoss Lunch gehabt zu haben, als er sah, wie zwei schwarze Kollegen reinkamen, nicht unbedingt in den Domino Room, sondern ins Gebäude. Einer der beiden trug den Sitznamen "Junior". "Junior" und sein Kollege standen draußen, um auf den Präsidenten zu warten, entschieden sich aber, durch den Hintereingang wieder ins TSBD zu gehen. Das kann frühesten 7 Minuten vor den Schüssen stattgefunden haben:http://22november1963.org.uk/ce-399-magic-bullet-planted-or-genuine
Was machen wir mit dem FBI-Bericht, laut dem die Kugel, die in JFKs Rücken eintrat, nicht ausgetreten sein soll?
Was machen wir mit der Kugel, die Oswald im April 1963 auf Edwin Walker abgefeuert worden sein soll?
Es wurde eine Kugel mit Stahlmantel dokumentiert:
http://www.whokilledjfk.net/Walker.htm
Nach dem JFK-Attentat war auf einmal ein Kupfermantelgeschoss in der Dokumentation, das zu Oswald Gewehr passt.
Wenn so viele Lügen und Desinformation im Umlauf gebracht wurden, die nur dazu dienen, die entlastenden Beweise zu übertönen, wie kann man da behaupten, dass LHO der Einzige gewesen sei, der in Frage kommt?
Und erinnert euch an die Erkenntnisse aus der Arbeit des ARRB:
@Nemon
Warum kommt nur Oswald in Frage? Weil er als einziger nach den Schüssen fehlte? Das ist ein Mythos!behind_eyes schrieb:Alles was wir haben ist unsere nüchterne Einschätzung der vorliegenden Fakten und da ist Oswald einfach der Einzige der infrage kommt.
1) 75 employees worked in the building on 11/22/63 (based on thehttp://www.whokilledjfk.net/missing_employees.htm
names
given to them by Truly). (XXII, pp.632-86)
2) 48 were OUTSIDE at 12:30 PM. (Ibid)
3) 5 did NOT report for work that day.(Ibid, pp. 632 & 676)
4) Many of the remaining employees in the building left after the
shots had been fired and ceased. (Ibid, pp. 632, 645, 655-656, 665)
Add in the fact many were NOT allowed back in to the TSBD after the
assassination you have a slew of people "missing" by the time the
police began searching the building. LHO wasn't even the only one
missing among the ones who worked on the sixth floor that day as it
was said that LHO was NOT "the only one who didn't show up and
COULDN'T be accounted for." (VI, p. 321)
All of this was discussed in Mark Lane's "Rush To Judgement", how
could you have missed it for 40 years????
Anyone who claims LHO was the "only one missing" is a liar.
Die Dokumentation seiner Fingerabdrücke am Gewehr, "seiner" Papiertüte am Tatort sind fragwürdig. Auch hat ihn keiner der Zeugen zuverlässig als Schützen identifiziert.
Es gibt Sichtungen Oswalds im Erdgeschoss wenige Minuten vor dem Attentat, zu einem Zeitpunkt als schon andere Zeugen eine Person mit Gewehr im Schützennest sichteten.
Abschnitt Sightings of Oswald and the Gunman
http://22november1963.org.uk/lee-harvey-oswald-alibi (Archiv-Version vom 21.07.2019)
Auch ein Detail seines Alibis bweist, dass er sich noch 5 Minuten vor den Schüssen im Erdgeschoss befand:
Er gab an, im "Domino Room" im Erdgeschoss Lunch gehabt zu haben, als er sah, wie zwei schwarze Kollegen reinkamen, nicht unbedingt in den Domino Room, sondern ins Gebäude. Einer der beiden trug den Sitznamen "Junior". "Junior" und sein Kollege standen draußen, um auf den Präsidenten zu warten, entschieden sich aber, durch den Hintereingang wieder ins TSBD zu gehen. Das kann frühesten 7 Minuten vor den Schüssen stattgefunden haben:
A set of handwritten notes by Captain Fritz, which were made public by the Assassination Records Review Board in the late 1990s, and which were probably copied from Bookhout’s notes, echo Bookhout’s version of the encounter:http://22november1963.org.uk/lee-harvey-oswald-alibi (Archiv-Version vom 21.07.2019)says two negr. came in. One Jr. + short negro
(J.W. Fritz, Handwritten Notes of Oswald’s Interrogation, p.1)
James ‘Junior’ Jarman and Harold Norman
Oswald’s claim was corroborated by the accounts of two black employees who matched these descriptions: James Jarman was known as ‘Junior’, and Harold Norman was short (Jarman: WCHE, vol.3, pp.201–202; Norman: WCHE, vol.3, pp.189–190). Both men had been standing outside the TSBD, waiting to see the president. When they heard that the motorcade had reached Main Street, they decided to go back into the building to obtain a better view. Jarman stated that he was standing outside “until about 12:20, between 12:20 and 12:25”. Police logs report that the motorcade was crossing Live Oak Street, about one minute from Main Street, at 12:22 (Commission Exhibit 705, p.72 [WCHE, vol.17, p.461]), which indicates that Jarman and Norman entered the TSBD no earlier than 12:23.
Because of the crowd standing on the front steps of the TSBD, Jarman and Norman used one of the building’s rear entrances. Their most direct route took them right past the domino room, which was in the north–eastern corner of the first floor, with windows on both the northern and eastern sides. Jarman and Norman would have entered the building close to the door of the domino room.[/u] For a plan of the first floor, see CD 496, which also includes photographs of the domino room and of the external door which Jarman and Norman must have used.
Oswald’s claim was not that James Jarman and Harold Norman had been in the domino room at some point during their lunch break. If that was what he was claiming, he could easily have been bluffing; the domino room was where many of the warehouse employees usually ate their lunch. Oswald’s claim was much more specific: that those two particular employees were in the vicinity of the domino room at a time when Oswald was otherwise alone. Oswald could not have known of their presence unless he too was in or near the domino room at the exact time when Jarman and Norman entered the building. The testimony of James Jarman and Harold Norman proved that Lee Oswald was on the first floor of the TSBD just a few minutes before the assassination.
Tja, was machen wir mit den Dokumenten zu den weiteren Kugeln? Einfach ignorieren? Was machen wir mit den Aussagen der Pathologen, laut denen es zu viele Fragmente in Connallys Körper gäbe, um von von einer einzigen Kugel, der Single Bullet zu stammen?Nemon schrieb:Was auch bei mir alles nichts dran ändert, dass ich - trotz aller möglichen Machenschaften im Hintergrund - auch deinen Punkt 1. unterschreiben würde.
If CE 399 were the only bullet to have struck Governor Connally, it must have been the source of all the metal fragments that were deposited in his chest, thigh and wrist wounds:
Two small fragments were removed from his wrist (Warren Commission Hearings, vol.17, p.841 [Commission Exhibit 842]). The larger of the two fragments weighed 0.5 grain (Warren Commission Hearings, vol.5, p.72).
Dr Charles Gregory, who operated on Connally’s wrist, pointed out that other fragments were removed from the wrist and then mislaid: “there were two fragments of metal retrieved … the major one or ones now being missing” (Warren Commission Hearings, vol.4, p.123). Nurse Audrey Bell also recalled several missing fragments: ARRB MD 184, pp.2f.
A fragment measuring approximately 2 mm by 0.5 mm was removed from just below the skin on the thigh (Warren Commission Hearings, vol.4, p.125).
Other fragments were left in place. According to Dr Robert Shaw, who had operated on Connally, “more than three grains of metal [remained] in the wrist” (Warren Commission Hearings, vol.4, p.113).
A small fragment remained in the chest (Warren Commission Hearings, vol.6, p.111).
A flake of metal measuring approximately 2 mm by 0.2 mm remained embedded in Connally’s femur (Warren Commission Hearings, vol.4, p.125).
The pathologists who conducted President Kennedy’s autopsy were presented with the CE 399 bullet by representatives of the Warren Commission and were asked whether they thought it could have caused Connally’s injuries. Dr James Humes, the chief pathologist, replied:I think that is most unlikely. … This missile is basically intact; its jacket appears to me to be intact, and I do not understand how it could possibly have left fragments in either of those locations. … I doubt if this missile would have left behind it any metallic fragments from its physical appearance at this time. … Metallic fragments were not removed and are still present in Governor Connally’s thigh. I can’t conceive of where they came from this missile.
(Warren Commission Hearings, vol.2, pp.374–76)
The other two pathologists, Dr J. Thornton Boswell (ibid., p.377) and Dr Pierre Finck (“there are too many fragments”: ibid., pp.381f), agreed with Dr Humes.
Das wäre eine Verschwörung zur Beweismanipulation.
Was machen wir mit dem FBI-Bericht, laut dem die Kugel, die in JFKs Rücken eintrat, nicht ausgetreten sein soll?
The FBI Summary Report states only that “two bullets struck President Kennedy, and one wounded Governor Connally” (p.1), and that “one of the bullets [that struck Kennedy] had entered just below his shoulder to the right of his spinal column at an angle of 45 to 60 degrees downward … there was no point of exit” (p.18).http://22november1963.org.uk/single-bullet-theory-jfk-assassination#fn04_002
Was machen wir mit der Kugel, die Oswald im April 1963 auf Edwin Walker abgefeuert worden sein soll?
Es wurde eine Kugel mit Stahlmantel dokumentiert:
http://www.whokilledjfk.net/Walker.htm
Nach dem JFK-Attentat war auf einmal ein Kupfermantelgeschoss in der Dokumentation, das zu Oswald Gewehr passt.
Schön, dass du Oswald mit unschuldig Verurteilten gleichsetzst ;)
Wenn so viele Lügen und Desinformation im Umlauf gebracht wurden, die nur dazu dienen, die entlastenden Beweise zu übertönen, wie kann man da behaupten, dass LHO der Einzige gewesen sei, der in Frage kommt?
Und erinnert euch an die Erkenntnisse aus der Arbeit des ARRB:
The release of the House Select Committee on Assassinations' files in the 1990s, and new interviews with autopsy participants, have added to concerns that the photographic and X-ray record of the autopsy has been tampered with. Saundra Kay Spencer, the woman who processed autopsy photos after the assassination, told the Review Board under oath that the pictures in existence are not from the set she developed. Photographer John Stringer similarly disavowed the existing brain photos which he is supposed to have taken.
The HSCA did authenticate the X-rays as genuine using stereo viewing (which would detect tampering among pairs of photographs of the same subject), and verified via anthropomorphic analysis that it is indeed Kennedy in the photos. But HSCA files reveal that the photographs failed another key authenticity test, and this failure was buried and subsequently misrepresented in an HSCA report. The X-rays are similarly the subject of authenticity disputes.
https://www.maryferrell.org/pages/Autopsy_Photos_and_X-Rays.html
- Documents showing that the HSCA had tested the Navy camera which was supposed to have taken JFK's autopsy photographs, and it failed the authenticity tests.
- HSCA interviews of autopsy witnesses directly contradicting the depictions of wounds presented by the medical panel; the interviews - were suppressed and misrepresented by the HSCA.
- A sworn interview with Saundra Kay Spencer, who developed the JFK autopsy photos, in which she declared that the photos in the Archives are not the ones she developed. Autopsy photographer John Stringer similarly disavowed the supplemental autopsy brain photographs.
https://www.maryferrell.org/pages/JFK_Assassination.html
