Den Haag weist Völkermordklage gegen Serbien ab

was dich zu einem bosniaken macht und mich zu einem serben. du bist kein eier mehl mit zucker, du bist ein kuchen.

:D verstanden?

"Du bist bosnier und bosniake. ich bin bosnier(eigentlich herzegowiner) und serbe."

Falsch.

Ich bin Bosnier und Moslem, du bist Bosnier und hast den Orthodoxen Glauben.


@donbalija
Dann lass doch einfach die serben aus der diskussion raus. letztendlich bist du es doch, der fortwährend schreibt: die serben haben das gemacht, die serben haben dies gemacht... Nach deiner gleichung gibt es keine serben in bosnien. daher kannst du ja demnächst schreiben: die bosnier haben das gemacht, die bosnier haben dies gemacht.

btw. Karadzidc ist montenegriner und kein serbe

montenegriner sind serben

Bosnier und Kroaten dind auch serben:D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRxnektGUZU

Ach, schei* drauf! Die ganze Welt war einst Serbien!!! ;)

Slave = Serbe ?

Serben sind meines Wissens Slawen...
Aber umgekehrt? ;)

>>montenegriner sind serben

Schon seit fast 1 1/2 Jahren nichtmehr...

Wenn man Njegos als Quelle (Der Bergkranz) nimmt, dann sind die Montenegriner Serben.
44,6% der Montenegriner haben sich gegen eine Unabhängigkeit ausgesprochen und wenn man bedenkt, wieviele Albaner und Moslems in Montenegro leben, dann kann man sich ja vorstellen, wie es zu der Mehrheit gekommen ist.




">>montenegriner sind serben

Schon seit fast 1 1/2 Jahren nichtmehr..."


@ Breakamumu

Serb Patriarch Arsenije III Crnojevic (c. 1633-1706, born in Cetinje, Montenegro) (http://www.njegos.org/orthodoxy/arsenije.jpg), from the brotherhood to which also belonged family that ruled Zeta (Montenegro) in the second half of XV century. First abbot of the Patriarchate of Pec monastery then Metropolitan of Pec and from 1672 Serb Patriarch. In 1689 he joined Austria's war against Turkey but after defeat, fearing Turkish reprisals, he was forced to move as many as 36,000 Serb families to Austrian-ruled Pannonia, north of Sava and Danube rivers. In 1690 Austrian Emperor issued him The Privilege in which Serbian Orthodox Church received autonomy and by it full privileged status of the Serbs in Austrian Empire.

PETROVIC NJEGOS DYNASTY
1697-1918
SERB PATRIOTS

Danilo Petrovic Njegos (1697-1735) (http://www.njegos.org/petrovics/vdanilo.jpg)

Born in 1670. Metropolitan and ruler of Montenegro. The founder of the Petrovic Njegos dynasty. In the text written on the manuscript gospel, his gift to Serb Patriarchate of Pec, in 1732, Danilo proudly expressed himself as DANIL NJEGOS, THE BISHOP OF CETINJE, THE LEADER OF THE SERB LAND


Sava Petrovic Njegos (1735-1781) (http://www.njegos.org/petrovics/sava.jpg)

Born in c. 1700. Metropolitan and ruler of Montenegro. When the Serb Patriarchate of Pec was, under pressure of Greek clergy, banned by Turks in 1766, in the name of Serb bishops Sava wrote to Metropolitan of Moscow, informed him that SERB NATION IS UNDER HARD SLAVERY and therefore asked Russian Holy Synod to help the restoration of Serb Patriarchate. He also asked Russian Empress to PROTECT SERBS FROM THE GREEK AND TURKISH INTRUDING and said WE ARE READY TO PAY RUSSIA IN BLOOD.


Vasilije Petrovic Njegos (1750-1766) (http://www.njegos.org/petrovics/vasilije.jpg)

Born in 1709. Metropolitan and ruler of Montenegro. Ruled with Sava. He was convinced that Montenegro, with Russian help, has to play crucial role in the restoration of the Serb Empire. In his book "History of Montenegro", he listed Serb bishops and put himself above the others. In the "Ode to Nemanja", the founder of medieval Serb dynasty, Vasilije evokes Serb past with the words HOLY SERB KINGS ARISE, and adds SERB BISHOPS DO NOT SLEEP, BUT ENTIRE NIGHT PRAY TO GOD SERB EMPIRE TO RESTORE.



Petar I Petrovic Njegos (1782-1830) (http://www.njegos.org/petrovics/svpetar2.jpg)

Born in 1747. Metropolitan and ruler of Montenegro. During the Russian-Turkish war in 1807, Petar I Petrovic sent Russian General of Danube army a letter with the proposal to Russian Emperor about restoration of Serb Empire. According to the proposal, RUSSIAN EMPEROR WOULD BE RECOGNIZED AS THE EMPEROR OF THE SERBS AND THE METROPOLITAN OF MONTENEGRO WOULD BE HIS ASSISTANT. THE LEADING ROLE IN THE RESTORATION OF SERB EMPIRE BELONGS TO MONTENEGRO.


Petar II Petrovic Njegos (1830-1851) (http://www.njegos.org/petrovics/njegos3.jpg)

Born in 1813. Metropolitan and ruler of Montenegro. The father of modern Serb national identity. The author of the most patriotic Serb epic "The Mountain Wreath". In the year of 1848, the Government of Serbia sent him the proposal of unification of Serbs, Croats and Bulgarians. Petar II Petrovic agreed but said THE SERBDOM HAS TO UNITE FIRST. I WILL, THEN, TO MY PATRIARCHATE OF PEC AND SERBIAN PRINCE TO PRIZREN. SPIRITUAL AUTHORITY TO ME AND SECULAR TO HIM, OVER THE NATION FREE AND UNITED.


Danilo Petrovic Njegos (1851-1860) (http://www.njegos.org/petrovics/kdanilo.jpg)

Born in 1826. He divided spiritual and secular authorities and became the Prince. His letters to Princes of Serbia, Aleksandar Karadjordjevic and Mihailo Obrenovic, and his deed, were always inspired with the idea of Serb unification - IN FRONT OF THE TENT I'LL SERVE THE KING IF SERBDOM WOULD BE EVER UNITED AND UNITY OF SERBS REACHED or LET PRINCE MIHAILO JUST START, I'LL JOIN HIM WITH MY MONTENEGRINS TO LIBERATE THE SERB NATION, WITH ME EVEN AS AN ORDINARY SOLDIER.


Nikola Petrovic Njegos (1860-1918) (http://www.njegos.org/petrovics/nikola3.jpg)

Born in 1841, died in 1921. In 1910, he was proclaimed as a King of Montenegro. His entire political work was inspired only with one idea, the restoration of Serb Empire. He saw himself as a new Emperor Dusan, as a rightful descendent of medieval Serb Throne. The Great war (1876-78) was his revenge for the Kosovo battle in 1389. His message to Montenegrins in Herzegovina, in 1876, was UNDER MURAD I SERB EMPIRE WAS DESTROYED UNDER MURAD V IT HAS TO RISE AGAIN. THIS IS MY WISH AND WISH OF ALL OF US AS WELL AS THE WISH OF ALMIGHTY GOD.


MONTENEGRIN CHIEFTAINS
SERB PATRIOTS

Overall Assembly of Montenegrins (Opste crnogorski zbor) and Assembly of the Chieftains (Zbor glavara) were clans' institutions, convoked from time to time to solve questions of common interest. They made decisions about war and peace, chose prince-bishops (vladikas) and permanent chiefs (guvernadurs, serdars, vojvodas) and later even brought the laws. Overall Assembly of Montenegrins was convoked until 1852, and Assembly of the Chieftains until 1879.

Assembly of the Chieftains in Cetinje, Montenegrin capital (http://www.njegos.org/clans/chiefs.jpg)

Montenegrin Chieftains write to Russian Emperor, Peter the Great, on 21 October 1711, WE ALL ABOVE MENTIONED CLANS AND CHIEFS UNDERSTOOD EVERYTHING AND BOWED OUR HEADS TO YOUR EMPEROR. WE ACCEPTED YOUR REPRESENTATIVE, MIHAILO MILORADOVIC, AS OUR COMMANDER AND COLONEL. WITH HAPPINESS WE ACCEPTED HIM, FINE AND BRAVE, GOOD IN BATTLE, AS LIKE AS HIS ANCESTORS HAD BEEN CHOSEN IN THE TIME OF OUR VENERABLE AND HOLY DECEASED SERB EMPERORS.

In September 1742, the Chieftains of Montenegro and Highlands write to Russian Empress and express themselves in the letter WE ARE OF THE GREEK ORTHODOX FAITH, SONS OF THE EASTERN CHURCH WHO LIVE IN THE SERB LANDS - SKENDERIJA, MONTENEGRO AND THE SEACOAST.

In the letter of Montenegrin Chieftains to Head of Little Russia, in 1752, it is said WE LIVE IN THE DISTANT SERB LANDS, IN THE REGION OF MONTENEGRO.

In the letter to Superior of Kotor, Justinian Bert, on 24 October 1756, Montenegrin Chieftains say WE ARE OF THE ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN FAITH AND LAW OF THE EASTERN CHURCH, OF THE HONORABLE AND GLORIOUS SLAV-SERB KIN.

In June 1789, Montenegrin Chieftains, in the name of THE ENTIRE SERB MONTENEGRIN COMMUNITY, write to Russian Empress Katarina II and say WE SERBS MONTENEGRINS HOPE THAT WE SHALL NOT BE LEFT WITHOUT HELP and add IF WE COULD HAVE ORGANIZATION AND MUNITION, WE WOULD LIBERATE OUR GLORIOUS SERB LANDS ENTIRELY FROM THE BARBARIAN YOKE, TOGETHER WITH OUR ARMED SERB BROTHERS WHO AIM TO ATTACK THIS ENEMY FROM THE ALL SIDES.

Montenegrin Chieftains write to Senate of Venice, in 1792, THANK GOD, WE ARE OF THE GREEK ORTHODOX FAITH AND LAW, OF THE SERB GLORIOUS HEROISM AND LANGUAGE.

MONTENEGRIN SCHOOL DOCUMENTS

STATE GIMNASIUM CERTIFICATE, 1902 (http://www.njegos.org/heritage/cggimnaz.jpg)
Mother tongue in Montengero is Serbian language

CHURCH SCHOOL CERTIFICATE, 1905 (http://www.njegos.org/heritage/svjed.jpg)
Compulsory subjects: Serb language and literature, Serb history and geography

PUBLIC SCHOOL CERTIFICATE, 1908 (http://www.njegos.org/heritage/uvjerenje.jpg)
Nationality and faith: Serb of Orthodox faith

PUBLIC SCHOOL CERTIFICATE, 1911 (http://www.njegos.org/heritage/uvjerm.jpg)
Nationality and faith: Serb of Muslim faith


Ein ethnischer Unterschied zwischen Serben und Montenegrinern ist nicht festzustellen. Slobodan Milosevic ist übrigens auch ein Montenegriner.


Tatsächlich dürfte hinter dem Unabhängigkeitsstreben eher Washington als Brüssel stehen. »Die EU hat keinen Grund dafür, einen Ministaat im Süden mit all seinen Problemen zu wollen«, ist der Belgrader Ökonom und ehemalige Privatisierungsminister Oscar Kovac überzeugt. Den USA könne es dagegen nur Recht sein, wenn sich mögliche EU-Erweiterungsgespräche mit Serbien zukünftig wegen der Abspaltung Montenegros schwieriger gestalten.

Quelle: http://www.uni-kassel.de/fb5/frieden/regionen/Serbien-Montenegro/abstimmung.html


@DonVoccali

Dir sind doch wohl nicht die Argumente ausgegangen?

"@DonVoccali

Dir sind doch wohl nicht die Argumente ausgegangen?"

Versuch du einem Schaf die Grundlagen der Physik zu erläutern. ;)

er versuchts grad mit einem esel