Oscar Pistorius, das Model, der Valentinstag und das war dann Notwehr

OSCAR TRIAL: COURT HEARS OF BLOOD TRAIL - Sapa

Reeva Steenkamp's blood left an s-shaped trail in Oscar Pistorius's house caused by an arterial spurt, the judge in his murder trial was told on Wednesday.

"The serpentine or 's' shape -- that's typical of what you would expect in an arterial spurting pattern," blood spatter analyst Colonel Ian van der Nest told the High Court in Pretoria.

When Judge Thokozile Masipa asked for a definition of arterial, he replied: "arterial, from an artery".

He began by explaining that the blood residue found on an armchair in a downstairs sitting room at Pistorius's home in Silver Woods estate, would have come from upstairs.

"The open area above the landing makes the area accessible to arterial staining if there is someone with an arterial spurt in that area," he said.

Walking through the house on February 15, when his analysis was conducted, he observed a combination of "contact staining, drip staining as well as arterial spurt".

He said one of the notes made at Steenkamp's post mortem was that she had long hair and that her hair was blood-soaked.

Her grey shorts were also saturated with blood.

This was the main cause of the "drip trail" he found, he said.

Pistorius has admitted to shooting through the door of the toilet cubicle in his bathroom. He said in his bail application he thought there was an intruder in the house when he fired the shots.

He realised afterwards that it was Steenkamp, who was spending the night there. He broke into the toilet and took her downstairs.

The paralympic athlete has been charged with the premeditated murder of Steenkamp and contravening the Firearms Control Act.

He allegedly fired a shot from a Glock pistol under a table at a Johannesburg restaurant in January 2013.

On September 30, 2012 he allegedly shot through the open sunroof of a car with his 9mm pistol while driving with friends in Modderfontein.

He has pleaded not guilty to all charges.

BLOOD SPATTER EXPERT CALLED TO TESTIFY - Sapa

A police blood spatter expert was called to testify in paralympian Oscar Pistorius's murder trial in the High Court in Pretoria on Wednesday.

Colonel Ian van der Nest said to questioning from prosecutor Gerrie Nel he had been with the police forensics laboratory for 20 years.

He had a BSc degree and an honours in biochemistry from Rhodes University.

He was asked to attend Reeva Steenkamp's post mortem.

"I made observational notes and assisted in measuring the wounds," he said, speaking clearly.

Pistorius shot Steenkamp through the locked toilet door in his Silver Woods Country Estate townhouse in the early hours of February 14 last year. He has claimed he mistook her for an intruder.

"My interest was to address several investigative questions posed to me, including the appearance of blunt force trauma on the deceased's body... blue discolouration of the eyes, extensive staining of the scene, and staining of the cricket bat."

Questioned by Nel on two blood drops on an armchair on the ground floor of Pistorius's home, Van der Nest said: "It was an artefact from an arterial spurt that had arisen from above."

FadingScreams schrieb:He said one of the notes made at Steenkamp's post mortem was that she had long hair and that her hair was blood-soaked.

Her grey shorts were also saturated with blood.

This was the main cause of the "drip trail" he found, he said.

Interested schrieb:Wenn die Nachricht mit den 3 weiteren Zeugen stimmt, so ist Ozzy schuldfähig. Sonst würde die Verhandlung einen anderen Verlauf nehmen.

I Climbed on the Bed


"My mind was so fixated on finding Reeva"


"My first intention was to see if she was on bed"


Oscar Pistorius
14/04/14


Gerrie Nel Prosecutor questioned Pistorius as to what he did after he shot through the toilet door.

Seems he walked back to the bedroom gun in hand still 'screaming' (not shouting like any other guys would but screaming, he's used 'screaming' a lot in evidence just so we will get the message, he screams like a girl. ) for Miss Steenkamp to call the police, and then got onto the bed.


"My lady I know she wasn't on the bed because I crossed the bed. I got on to the foot... if you look at the bed on the left foot side I slipped up, I slid myself up onto the bed because I wasn't tall enough. I didn't want to keep my eyes off the passage and I moved across the bed. When I got to the other side of the bed I was hoping she would be on the floor as I'd told her to be."

Gerrie Nel also put it to him that it was dangerous to run up and down with the gun still cocked and queried why it never discharged...when Mr Pistorius opened the curtains and the two sliding doors of the balcony.

"My lady I understand how it sounds but if you look at the photos when I placed the gun down on the floor in the bathroom the gun was still loaded and cocked it was unsafe, if I look back now. I realise how much I was busy there on the floor I could have kicked it and IT could have shot me or Reeva again."

(I can understand why Gerrie Nel asked Pistorius if this gun was the same as the Glock)


Two things here:

If Pistorius told Miss Steenkampt to get down on floor, and phone police - why after shooting through the toilet door and returning to the bedroom, did he:


(a) Firstly check out the bed (she wasn't going to be there if he'd told her to get down on the floor)

Why would he climb onto a bed which posed him difficulty being little as he himself said - "I wasn't tall enough" instead of checking out the floor area at the balcony side, by simply walking round the bed and having a look/feel? It was much simpler for all manner of reasons to check first the place he had told her to be. It would have saved this man who said he had difficulty getting onto the bed because he is small, having to climb up onto the bed, and wriggle his way across it gun in hand. That to me is a nonsense, when all he had to do was walk another couple steps, and he would have seen if Reeva was on floor. She was hardly going to be lying on the bed so why did he check their first? Why pretend like he was James Bond, or the Milk Tray Man and roll across bed with a gun?


(b) Why would he struggle to climb up onto the bed holding a gun which was still cocked wriggle across it- which surely would have put Miss Steenkamp in danger? At this point he doesn't know she is not around (according to him of course) that he has shot her, so why would he do this and put her in danger?

Until Pistorius opened that toilet door, not until he had checked if Miss Steenkamp had left the room , would he know if he had shot anyone. At this stage his story is that he has shot through the door, the shots he fired as he heard a noise and got a fright. He said he didn't hear anything at all after firing as his ears were ringing. This is his reason for not hearing Miss Steenkamp cry out or scream he said. Well, if he did not hear anything,for all he knew at this point he had fired through that toilet door into an empty cubicle.

So why would he rush to batter down the toilet door, as Gerrie Nel said - without first checking if Miss Steenkamp was elsewhere in the house?

Gerrie Nel put it to Pistorius that immediately after he had fired the four shots through the toilet door, that he had laid the gun down on the bathroom floor, and that is why it was still cocked.

I agree with Gerrie Nel that Pistorius did not run up and down that bedroom/bathroom gun in hand, gun cocked while he climbed over beds, opened curtains (or parted them) unlocked sliding balcony doors feeling behind curtains, checking and feeling around the floor area at the balcony side of the bed.

It makes no sense whatsoever, and so many obstacles at the balcony side, cooling fans, cables, and of course his prosthetic legs, were they not lying that side too? Pistorius testified that there was little space balcony side, between bed and balcony doors, perhaps only a metre he said.

Gerrie Nel put it to Pistorius that why would he go back to the bathroom and try to open toilet door to see if it was Miss Steenkamp he'd shot and not an intruder before checking if Miss Steenkamp had made her escape out through the bedroom door. Pistorius replied why would he waste time checking everything?

Why would he not?

That is all we need ask - Why would he not? And there can be but one answer, he knew he had shot Miss Steenkamp, he knew exactly what he had done, he knew who was behind the door before he fired, and the rest of his story is a bullshit!


l-azzeri-lies-in-the-sun.com
14th April 2014

Pistorius Performs - Act 1

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http://l-azzeri-lies-in-the-sun.com/Pistorius_Performs_Act_1.html


Pistorius - Act 2

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http://l-azzeri-lies-in-the-sun.com/Pistorius_-_Act_2.html

KlaraFall schrieb:"....I could have kicked it and IT could have shot me or Reeva again."

If, on the other hand, she had gone to the bathroom completely unaware of any danger, everything hunky-dory, and was then shot, her screams would not have been as loud and certainly would not have held that same element of fear. Miss Steenkamp would have been stunned for want of a better word, would not have known what was going on, when the first bullet hit, indeed would not have known what had hit her!


If she cried out at this time it would have been for Pistorius her boyfriend to help her, she would not have known he was the guy who pulled the trigger, how could she, if all was well between them beforehand, and if she did cry out at this point, Pistorius hearing her cry would have known that there was no burglar -that he had made that awful mistake which he claims to have done - and he would not have fired a second, third, fourth shot!

fortylicks schrieb:Du bist mittlerweile nur noch nervig.....Schönen Tag Dir!

fortylicks schrieb:Hier wurde gestern abend nichts Weiteres gemacht als logische Gedanken
"zu Papier" gebracht.

Tussinelda schrieb:Es gab arteriell spurts

Tussinelda schrieb:es geht hier um den Prozess und was DORT vorgetragen,