Oscar Pistorius, das Model, der Valentinstag und das war dann Notwehr

Mandyjo schrieb:Mich interessiert ein psychologisches Gutachten über ihn .

Mandyjo schrieb:Mich interessiert ein psychologisches Gutachten über ihn .

Oscar Pistorius trial: doctor describes finding body of Reeva Steenkamp

http://news24s.com/oscar-pistorius-trial-doctor-describes-finding-body-reeva-steenkamp/

Actually, Nel said nothing of the sort.. he , in objecting to Roux painting the scenario to Dr Stipp as a FACT, that the head shot was FIRST, which is not the stipulated facts, and which Roux was trying to propose to the witness in error AS a fact. ( it was dealt with in the objection and the ruling hasn't come down yet)

Nels said.. the witness states she WAS screaming both before the shots AND DURING the shots.. therefore, the head shot was the LAST shot and not the first, which was the scenario, the Accused scenario wanted tabled.. This resulted in a long and tense interchange, and in the end Roux had to submit and resile from portraying his idea that the head shot was the first.. he had to admit to and continue along with his cross examination on the proviso that this theory is NOT the state case , it is the version of the accused and must be addressed as such.

Then Roux attempted to question Dr Stipp on what Roux says is OSCARS version and what does Dr Stipp think about it?? Dr Stipp replied.. I understand you are making an observation about my testimony.. ( that is, Dr Stipp understood that Roux was offering an OPINION and a THEORY and not a stipulated fact...

it all ended in tears anyway because not long after this, Dr Stipp drops the bombshell that he saw a person. .he wont be drawn on man or woman IN the bathroom, WITH the light on, the SCREAMS and SHOTS were simultaneously occurring.. at this point , Roux calls for a very hast and sudden adjournment for the afternoon. no doubt to consult with his client.
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the interesting thing , among so many, of Dr Stipps testimony was the person he saw in the bathroom, during this screaming , shooting moment. A light coloured silhouette. either it's Reeva OR Oscar with his legs on.

Because, if it's Oscar, he couldn't be WITHOUT his legs on.. the top of the bathroom window is frosted, and without his legs he wouldn't be HIGH enough , or plainly on his knees... so.. was it Oscar with his legs ON during the shooting, screaming lights on in the bathroom period?? or was it Reeva, standing on her own legs.. remains to be seen.
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Roux is painting the picture that the head wound was the first wound .. you know this.. and Nel is saying that indeed she would have been hard put to scream after the head wound but the head wound is NOT the first shot.. Roux wants the head wound to be the first shot, his client ditto, and no screams from Reeva consequently..

Not so, says, Nel. the head wound is the LAST shot, and the previous shots heard simultaneously with screaming are a woman screaming.. a dying Reeva, but not dying quietly...

It is Oscars contention, via Roux that the only screaming was Oscar.. he contends that ALL screams that night were Oscars screams. Reeva , apparently silent all through..

Every witness so far dismisses this opinion of Roux and his client. they dismiss it vehemently, persistently and without collaboration , unless there is some theory that Ms Burger, Mr Burger /Johnson AND DR STIPP , who don't know each other from a bar of soap all got together and decided to float the same idea..


Roux says.. it couldn't have been Reeva screaming, because of the head shot being first. but this is NOT the states case which Roux and his client have stipulated.. this is merely Roux opinion, and Nels objection to it being presented to a witness as a FACT has been knocked on the head. Roux has to present this theory as a THEORY of his client, and NOT a matter of FACT.
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Roux puts it, that all and any screaming heard on the terrible morning were ALL Oscar.. nothing and no one else. at any time.

Anyone who heard screaming and thought it was a woman screaming says so because the don't know how high Oscar can scream.. and this is true. .no one knows, so he will have to replicate that scream on the stand, perhaps..

Roux contention that , having concluded hearing a woman screaming, every witness so far is mistaken.. because.. if his client is telling truth, Reeva was dead of the head wound BEFORE the next 3 shots were fired..

Therefore.. it is incumbent on Roux to suggest and declare that each witness so far either collaborated, or , made a mistake. They made a mistake because they IMAGINE the screams.. he says, what they heard was Oscar screaming .

the judge will determine just who is making a mistake here, which is what judges are for

each witness so far has been extraordinarily certain and sure about it being a womans scream.. they just won t come to the concept in any way , at any time that what they heard was Oscar screaming first.. Dr Stipp heard simultaneous screaming , a man AND a woman screaming at the same time.. he disputes and dismisses Roux suggestion that he could have heard 2 different TONES of Oscars voice screaming. Dr STipp refused to even give this theory any credibility at all. He heard both a man AND a womans voice screaming.
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