Ich glaube ich denke ich nehme an das ich deinen grenzenlosen Hass eines Tages durchaus nachvollziehen kann.Warum Hass? Ich amüsiere mich hier prächtig. Bei dem mir hier gebotenen Versuch, offensichtlich kriminelle, oder militante pro-Russen, als doch eigentlich einfache und demokratiefreundliche Menschen zu verkaufen, kann man sich nur amüsieren. Hass erzeugen die, die NATO-BILD schreiben.
Pauschalisierend alle abstempeln hast du ja noch nicht verlernt:Ich habe das schon recht gut eingegrenzt. Die, die MH17 abgeschossen haben und die, die dort die Habseligkeiten durchwühlt haben, sind Verbrecher. Übrigens sind das alle, die dort gegen das Gesetz verstoßen, Verbrechen. Und das sind so ziemlich alle pro-Russen, die dort bewaffnet sind.
Foss schrieb:offensichtlich kriminelle, oder militante pro-Russen, als doch eigentlich einfache und demokratiefreundliche Menschen zu verkaufen, kann man sich nur amüsieren
Ja und da noch niemand ausser dir weiss wer die Maschine abgeschossen hat bleiben wir mal bei den Reportern der West-Presse die da hemmungslos in den Klamotten rumfummeln und deiner Meinung nach Verbrecher sind.
Auch das nehme ich dir ohne weiteres ab, finstere Unterstellungen und Schuldzuweisungen ohne Belege sind dein Ding, das merke ich hier schon seit Wochen.
The concern "Almaz-Antey", which is a manufacturer of defense systems "Buk", the anniversary of the crash Malaysian Boeing 777 in the Donbass again categorically denied the theory that the airliner was shot down by a missile separatists.http://newsru.com/russia/17jul2015/book.html
The company said that it has received new data that confirm the failure version of the missile launch from the area of the settlement of the Snow". "Terms of meeting the plane with a missile is not consistent with the injuries that are on the fragments of the fuselage of the Malaysian Boeing, and contrary to the algorithms of non-contact fuse and the characteristics of the fragmentation of the field generated warhead missiles", - stated in the message, which leads TASS.
The company said that they even conduct an experiment to prove it. It is anticipated that the landfill will be undermined anti-aircraft missile M next to a decommissioned Boeing, similar to the victim a year ago catastrophe over Ukraine, and the concern will be willing to pay for it all.
"To participate in the experiment as observers we are ready to invite international experts from among the independent and authoritative experts and representatives of the world's largest aircraft-building companies", - said the head of the concern. In "Diamond-Anthea" confident "that the results of the experiment once again confirms the correctness of the conclusions made by us according to the results conducted by the specialists of the concern of the study, and finally remove all the questions about the type of missile and the coordinates of the location where it started".
Previously, the company's specialists have carried out their investigation of the disaster Boeing. The report States that the Malaysian airliner was shot down from territory controlled by Ukrainian army. Images provided by the Ministry of defence in proof of activity of the Ukrainian air defense on the day of fall of the Malaysian airliner, called "otvorochennymi".
In the case of the collapse of Boeing proposed to establish a Tribunal
Passenger Boeing 777 from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur, crashed on July 17, 2014 80 kilometers from Donetsk, in the area of the settlement of the Snow. All aboard the plane people - 227 passengers and 12 crew members were killed.
Previously, Malaysia has contributed to the UN security Council a draft resolution on the establishment of a Tribunal for the collapse of Boeing in the Donbass. The document States that the Security Council must "create an international Tribunal with the sole purpose to seek the prosecution of those responsible for the crime of downed aircraft Malaysia Airlines MH17 on 17 July 2014.
Before this idea was supported by four other countries - Belgium, the Netherlands, Australia and Ukraine. Russia criticized the initiative.
Who is to blame: version
Many experts have speculated about what exactly happened in the air and who could be guilty of a disaster. Most experts believe that the plane was shot down by anti-aircraft missile complex "Buk". Experts have made statements, focusing on the nature of the damage to the fuselage. Missile "earth - air", which are fitted in the installation, explode at some distance from the purpose for which the aircraft sews lots of debris. The information that the plane was shot down from the ground, and confirmed these "black boxes" of the aircraft.
The West believes that being involved in the tragedy can be the separatists, which reported falling at the same time and in the same location as the Malaysian airliner, the Ukrainian military plane An-26, stating that they themselves had brought down the enemy flyers with the help of missile systems "Buk" and then allegedly hid the SAM. And one of the leaders of Ukrainian separatists even gave an interview to Reuters, which confirmed that the representatives of the self-proclaimed people's republics was "Buk" (the truth, then these words he denied).
Note that Russia is considering two versions of the incident. First - the plane was hit by Ukrainian security forces. In Moscow laughed at the words of the Ukrainian military that "Beeches". The second Boeing was shot down not from earth, but the rocket "air - air". In the Russian defense Ministry claimed that before the accident was recorded by a Ukrainian su-25 attack aircraft and even called the name of the witness who can confirm that on that day, after lunch on a combat mission flew the su-25 air force of Ukraine".
Russian television also showed a photo where we can clearly see the fighter drops a shell on the Malaysian airliner, but this picture was a fake, painted in the photo editor. Besides, even the Creator of the su-25 indicated that power rocket assault is too small to destroy such a large and fast-moving target, like a large passenger plane.
habs jetzt angeguckt, das steht als Zahl da und nicht als Wörter, die Angaben sind also tatsächlich falschHape1238 schrieb:Na bei der Opferzahl kann man nix falsch übersetzen.
wo ist das Problem, wenn der Konzern selbst für den Versuch bezahlt ? Wär doch sogar gut...aber nein , muss man ja alles madig machen.querdenkerSZ schrieb:das muss echt Verzweiflung sein..
Jedimindtricks schrieb:ja , wäre natürlich fatal wenn eine anti aircraft rakete kein flugzeug runterholen kann ;)
warum denn das ? Es geht nicht darum, dass die Rakete nicht dazu in der Lage ist, sondern, dass das Trefferbild ein völlig anderes ist, hat ja so garnix mit der Leistungsfähigkeit zu tun.
der wird sich schlapp gelacht haben .catman schrieb:Ui Strelkow wird von den Angehörigen verklagt
bei der Summe von 850 Millionen Dollar schon.. der Anwalt sagt, die wollen Infos von ihm...das ist irgendwie unrealistisch
Briefly on changes in the DNR--
1. The Ministry of Defense is dismantled. Pan Kononov is appointed deputy corps commanders with the duties of "give me, get me, and f**k you..."
2. The Somali Battalion is disbanded.
3. The Republican Guard was disbanded and in the near future it will be broken up into units of the People's Militia Corps.
4. I don't know yet what will happen to "Motorola" and "Givi".
Yesterday there were rumors that a Kremlin VIP had arrived in Donetsk, possibly even Vyacheslav Surkov, the "grey cardinal" of the Kremlin who has been involved in "managing" the Russian-backed separatists.der kreml kremelt die seperatisten um :D
hat ja nix mit MH17 zu tun, der Rest interessiert die Angehörigen wohl eher nicht
