LAPD - Festname nach Westernmanier

Kc schrieb:Da gilt eben vielfach die Maxime:,,Erst schießen, dann (vielleicht) fragen. Und danach am besten nochmal etwas mehr schießen, nur zur Sicherheit...

Irgendwie hat dieses Land auch langsam fertig..^^

@nurunalanur

Da hast du Recht. Was Waffen angeht, haben die Amerikaner echt eine Klatsche...
Besonders pervers find ich, dass sogar ganz gezielt ,,Kinderwaffen", also kleiner bemessene, aber voll funktionsfähige Schusswaffen kreiert und verkauft werden.

@SallySpectra

Hehe... Eine durchaus sinnvolle Vorsichtsmaßnahme :-D

@Kc

Amerikaner hängen so sehr an ihren Waffen, weil sie sich vor anderen Leuten verteidigen wollen. Ein sinnvoller Gedanke. Allerdings müssen sie sich erst verteidigen, weil alle Leute Waffen haben.
Das hängt auch mit dem Unabhängigkeitsgedanken zusammen.
Den Amerikanern wirst du ihre Waffen nicht wegnehmen können, eher laufen sie Sturm gegen die Regierung. Waffen sind ihnen das Allerheiligste. Und keine Versicherungen haben wollen! :troll:
Ich bin froh, dass bei uns kaum bis keine Waffen im Umlauf sind.

@Primordium

Ich würde ja nichts sagen, wenn auch ein bewusster, vernünftiger Umgang mit den Schusswaffen geschähe und nicht gar ,,Kinderwaffen" kreiert würden.

Warte ja eigentlich nur noch auf die Werbung, wo ein kleiner Junge die Straße entlang läuft, ein Kinderschänder ihn entführen will und der Junge seine kinderhandgerechte Version einer .357 Magnum aus der Tasche reisst, mit der er sich gegen den Entführer verteidigen kann.

Würde ich der Waffenlobby auch zutrauen, ,,Kinderschrotflinten" gibt es ja bereits.

Und gäbe sicherlich auch noch mehr als genug Eltern, die dann panisch aufgrund der Gefahr ihr Kind ausrüsten wollen...

live

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/manhunt-christopher-dorner-big-bear.html

Also ich würde mich momentan in LA alles andere als sicher fühlen.
Ein psychopathischer Copkiller läuft frei rum und auf der Gegenseite sitzen die Colts mehr als locker im Holster.
Irgendwie wie die Wahl zwischen Pest und Cholera.

er scheint tot zu sein......
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/12/chris-dorner-dead_n_2649763.html#liveblog

Christopher Dorner Shootout - Cops say "Burn It Down"

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"fucking burn this motherfucker"

Cops torch cabin where Christopher Dorner was held up

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hört mal hin bei minute 1:00

"we are going forward with the plan... with the burn"

"like we talked about"

"7 burners deployed, we have a fire"

so funktioniert das gesetz in den USA: verdächtiges auto? durchsieben! täter verbarrikadiert? brennt das haus nieder!
man muss keine sympathie mit dorner haben um zu sehen was für ein haufen das ist. das ist total krank! o.O

@Fluttershy
ja, da wird das Todesurteil vollstreckt, bevor es überhaupt zu einer Verhandlung kommt

Shortly after smoke was seen rising from the cabin, police ordered online scanner feeds to be cut having earlier barred networks like CNN from carrying live footage of the scene and telling journalists not to put out tweets.

LAPD pulls ‘Waco’ on Christopher Dorner to silence him forever

Mike Adams
Natural News
Feb 13, 2013
The LAPD has pulled a Waco. Barely two hours after ordering the media to remove their helicopters from the area and cut all live feeds, the LAPD managed to set fire to the cabin occupied by Christopher Dorner and burn him alive inside it, according to media reports.
Mission accomplished for the LAPD, an organization that has run its manhunt more like a rampaging street gang than a professional police department. As Natural News has already documented, LAPD officers have engaged in attempted murder of innocent citizens in their freakish frenzy to try to kill Dorner.
Their motive explains why LAPD officers fired tear gas into the cabin where Dorner was staying, knowing it would ignite flammable materials in the home and set the place on fire.
“…tear gas was fired into the house before the fire broke out,” reports the Los Angeles CBS affiliate. This is the same sort of tactic that was used to burn down the Branch Davidian community in Waco, Texas in 1993. The Waco raid, we all know by now, was a politically-motivated ATF assault against innocent men, women and children, all conducted for the purpose of increasing the visibility and importance of the ATF by creating a crisis where none existed. Click here to see an informative video on the subject.
Law enforcement knows full well that tear gas rounds often set homes ablaze. In fact, a California fire department issued a report in 2012 that supports precisely that conclusion. As the San Jose Mercury News reported last year:
Police tear gas launched into a Vallejo home in February during a SWAT-team standoff played a role in starting a fire that caused $60,000 in damage and killed two dogs, a fire department report released Monday finds.
The evidence so far
A D V E R T I S E M E N T
So here’s what we know:
1) The LAPD engaged in a wild, frenzied attempt to execute Dorner. This resulted in LAPD officers engaging in the attempted murder of innocent civilians, including one surfer and two women in a pickup truck. (Question: Why are LAPD officers who shot at innocent citizens not being charged with attempted murder?)
2) Once Dorner was holed up in a cabin, the LAPD chose to fire tear gas canisters into the home instead of waiting him out and forcing a surrender after a long standoff.
3) LAPD officers know full well that tear gas canisters can set off fires.
4) Once the fire broke out, Dorner was a dead man. If he fled the fire, he would be shot down by the LAPD. If he stayed in the cabin, he would be burned alive. This is the new brand of “justice” the LAPD is dishing out in 2013.
I’m not condoning the actions of Dorner, who appears to have murdered at least four victims. But if the LAPD is going to abandon its mission of public safety and function as an armed vigilante justice squad, dishing out death sentences to those it believes are guilty — without a trial or anything resembling due process — then they might as well throw away all their badges as just call themselves the LA Gang Squad. Because that’s how they’re acting. They can even have their own gang signs that they flash at each other before running another taxpayer-funded drive-by.
Dorner succeeds where the media has failed
Whether Dorner is really dead at this point or somehow managed to escape the fire (a possibility that has been reported), he has accomplished one astonishing thing that even the media could not achieve: The exposing of the total criminality of the LAPD and its complete abandonment of law.
Even if Dorner is dead, the LAPD still comes out of this looking not only utterly incompetent but — even worse – driven by vengeance rather than law. As every citizen reading this can easily recognize, that’s a very dangerous attitude for a police force to carry. In this frenzied manhunt, the whole world watched while the LAPD exposed itself as a gang of reckless idiotswho openly fire their guns at innocent civilians and who ram citizens’ vehicles with their police cars in acts of sheer madness and desperation.
“These lunatics broadsided the side of his truck, spun him around and started shooting at him,” said the attorney for one of the victims of the LAPD murder attempts.
The Torrance Police Department, which seems to have abandoned all reason and logic just as the LAPD has done, explained that “Perdue’s truck was ‘suddenly leaving the area’ and seemingly veering into a patrol car when the two vehicles collided at 5:15 a.m.” (Source)
So now, pulling out of a driveway or simply starting your car and driving away can be interpreted as “suddenly leaving the area,” earning you an attempted vehicular manslaughter maneuver by the local police. How’s that for public safety, eh?
Dorner’s killings were not random; but the LAPD’s attempted murders were!
Consider the actual risk of harm here: Dorner did not engage in RANDOM killings. Want proof? He did not kill his hostages. He let them live because they weren’t on his kill list. And yet the LAPD did, indeed, engage in random acts of attempted murder. Morally and ethically speaking, the LAPD was operating in worse violation than Dorner himself. Killing people who have wronged you is evil, but attempting to kill innocent people who have nothing to do with anything is even worse, and that’s what the LAPD did.
In fact, if you really look at the situation in retrospect, a typical LA citizen was far more likely to be killed by the LAPD than by Chris Dorner. Dorner was a selective killer while the LAPD attempted to kill people indiscriminately… seemingly at random.
If you weren’t on Chris Dorner’s kill list, you had nothing to fear from Dorner. But if you were a black man with a bald head, you had everything to fear from the LAPD! And they proved it by opening fire on not just one innocent person, nor two, but THREE innocent citizens who didn’t even resemble Dorner (two of the victims were women, the third was a thin white guy).
No wonder the LAPD was so desperately trying to murder Dorner on sight: the man knew too much. He had seen the inside operations of the LAPD, and he recognized what a runaway criminal operation it was.
None of this justifies Dorner’s actions, of course. Making a kill list and murdering people is no way to handle things in a civilized country… unless, of course, you’re President Barack Obama, in which case you get a bunch of DoJ lawyers to issue a 16-page memo “legalizing” your own private kill list that “authorizes” the murder of American citizens.
That’s where Obama and Dorner are a lot alike: They both believe in the use of violence, outside of law, to kill their enemies. Obama uses armed drones while Dorner used a rifle. Both of them are criminals who operate outside the law, and the only reason Dorner isn’t a national hero right now is because he didn’t have an army of lawyers working at the DoJ who could sanitize his activities by shoveling lawyerspeak manure all over the place.
Dorner also forgot to call his actions “peace.” See, if you kill a bunch of Americans without calling it “peace,” then you get chased by the police. But if you call it “peace,” as Obama does, you win a Nobel Peace Prize. And then the bombs you drop on children in the Middle East are called “peace bombs.”
Dorner’s mistake in all this was not that he killed people, you see, it’s that he didn’t get enough voters to back him first. Once you get the voters behind you, you can kill anybody you want, with no legal recourse whatsoever. That’s the precedent recently set by the White House, anyway.
Editor’s note: I wrote this article before seeing Alex Jones’ video on this subject at:

He and I both came to the same conclusion on this, which I suppose is not that astonishing, considering the history of police action in America. But what really is astonishing is that Alex Jones totally predicted, on the record, that the police would burn Dorner by setting fire to the cabin. Once again, Jones was 100% correct!
For the record, I typically hear Alex’s broadcast 1-3 days after it airs. I don’t listen to it in real time because I’m running Natural News during the day, so I listen to InfoWars via the downloadable MP3 files at other times, usually when I’m doing farm work. The Alex Jones Show is perfect for listening when you’re on a John Deere tractor, shredding 75 acres to get ready for the spring hay season. You should try it sometime…