Russland das Buhland... aber warum?

@jeremybrood
warum gibt den Kiew das nicht preis?

@Chavez

Der Anteil an gefangenen Ausländern ist in etwa so hoch wie der Anteil an toten Russen bei der Feuertragödie in Odessa.

Dafür, dass da "praktisch nur" die "reguläre russische Armee" kämpft, ist es verdammt dürftig.

@polos
Gibt es da Zahlen?

Der "Motorola" erzählt im Juli 2014, dass beii ihm eine Spezialeinheit von Kadyrows Leuten mitkämpft

Чеченский спецназ в Украине. Ополченец "Моторола" рассказал правду

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Tschetschenen im August bei Donezk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs6qvcWj990

@canales

Es werden immer wieder Gefangene ausgetauscht. Darüber gibt es Zahlen.

Ist schon doof, wenn man nicht versteht was man postet (vor allem das erste Video) :D Schade, dass @Chavez offline ist, er würde sich bestimmt tot lachen. :D

Niemand zweifelt dass da Tschetschenen mitkämpfen. So wie Franzosen, Spanier und Brasilianer.

@polos
Dass es Zahlen gibt ist mir bekannt, aber keine Nationalitäten der Ausgetauschten...

@canales ,

rate mal warum darüber nichts bekannt ist. Für die ausgetauschten Ukrainer interessiert sich niemand.

Ach ja... und ich empfehle dir herzlichst die Videos auf dieser Seite anzuschauen. :) Sag mal deine Meinung. :) (Nur so, aus Interesse)

@polos
weshalb nicht? darüber gab es mehr Videos als über die freigelassenen Sepas...

@canales

Stell dir mal vor. Die umgetauschten "Sepas" waren auch Ukrainer.

@polos
Ich weiß nicht unter welchen Bedingungen der Austausch vonstatten ging...deshalb wage ich da nicht zu spekulieren...

Ich habe noch ein Beweisvideo für die Anwesenheit für Tschetschenen und anderer Islamischer Kämpfer in der Region Donetsk gefunden. (Zeitraum: "Sie waren zuerst da") In diesem Video rühmen sie sich damit einen Islamischen Staat in der Ukraine einrichten zu wollen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcpsqiqXBcw


@canales

Gefangene wurden mittlerweile zig Mal ausgetauscht. Dabei tauscht die ukrainische Armee oftmals auch gefangene Zivilisten gegen ihre Soldaten aus. Von irgendwelchen Soldaten der regulären russischen Armee ist bisher nichts bekannt geworden.

die sind ja auch " nur " ausbilder und haben hier und da nen schnelles eingreifkommando .
die rebellen sind in der tat mitunter dusselig @polos

hier wird von ner zdf reporterin son bissl die veranstaltung umrissen bei der ankunft des 11ten humanitären konvois von russland . alle vor ort . osze , rotes kreuz .. und nen paar laster für die presse

https://twitter.com/KEigendorf/status/553331586582986753

wie immer alles regelkonform . alles humanitär

@Jedimindtricks

Die ukrainische Regierung behauptet felsenfest, dass die ukrainische Armee gegen die reguläre russische Armee kämpfen würde. Man hätte dort 200 Russen getötet, hier einen russischen Panzerkonvoi vernichtet, drüben noch 100 russische Elitekämpfer beseitigt und so weiter in Endlosschleife.

@polos
naja , lauf der dinge .
dort haben sich jetzt felsenfest zwei republiken " etabliert " , die pro russisch sind .
recht simpel eigtl

Ukrainisches Nachrichtenportal politnavigator macht sich keine Illusionen.
http://www.politnavigator.net/blog/glavnaya-tajjna-krovavogo-2014-goda
übersetzt mit Yandex

The mystery of the "Heavenly hundreds" is one of the main secrets of passing bloody 2014. Why the Ukrainian government does not want to reveal this mystery?

That day, after two days of storm Maidan, by 10 o'clock were injured by firearms two dozen employees of "Berkut" and the police. Once brought on a stretcher on the 22nd, the command of "Berkut" gave the order to retreat, because it is impossible to stand unarmed under onestream. "Berkut" was to leave, and the rebels rushed after police spetsnaz with cries of "They're running!".

When protesters armed with sticks, driven by speeches from the rostrum of the Maidan, where Nyschuk was screaming, rushed after the retreating "burkuts", the shooting began. Shot from the top of Institutskaja down the advancing soldiers of Maidan. These frames were seen, but no one saw frames of wounded policemen in the morning. Shooting at the police, probably originated from the hotel "Ukraine", which was then carried out and attacking protesters.

Most likely, rushed for the "berkuts" the excited soldiers caught in the crossfire SWAT present National guard and shooters with the hotel "Ukraine". So were killed most of the members of the so-called Heavenly hundreds. This blood and marked the final stage a coup and civil war. It longed to shed.

The investigation into the murders on Institutskaja is not completed. The accusations against the company commander of "Berkut" gardener's ridiculous. Reuters writes, when in court, now gone from custody Sadovnik was accused in the shooting of protesters, the Prosecutor showed the photo where he stands on this street at the moment with a rifle, holding it with both hands. Sadovnik on this accusation in the court removed the glove and showed cut off fingers of one hand, which he lost several years ago in trainings.

But to identify the murderers could almost instantly, if you could collect the bullets that it is easy. If this were the soldiers of "Berkut", it prints on the weapon bullets to find out who did the shooting. Each weapon has its own fingerprints, and they are documented for every fighter of a team.

Nobody did it! Why? Probably there were bullets that do not belong to the "Berkut" or "Omega", and there was maybe much more of them. The investigation of this sacramental murder could destroy the whole myth of euromaidan. And because everything that could make a consequence, to blame Sadovnik, not physically able to shoot.

All the power surplus is now the enemies escaped the President, the wrestlers with "criminal authority of Bandukovich". All the levers of power with excess usurped. So where is the investigation into the murder at the Institutskaja, where the murderer's first victim Maidan Ngoana where the kidnappers any Luzenac, Bulatovich and so on? Why none of them caught and not given for illustrative court, and even Sadovnik as a strange coincidence, quietly disappeared in the period of the court? Why he was given to do this?

The answers to these questions at present Kiev authorities, we are unlikely to get.

Leaders Euromaidan came to power thanks to a monstrous lie. The soon to be buried.

@IvanIV
politnavigator verbreitet nur schmarri . die quelle ist schon paar mal aufgetaucht

https://www.youtube.com/user/PolitNavigator


kann noch so ukrainisch sein ... ist pro russisch

Noch ein Artikel von politnavigator übersetzt.

http://www.politnavigator.net/blog/trebuyutsya-separatisty

Required separatists

All seen what it looks like "fighting separatism" in the Vinniza, where the daughter of the battalion "Aidar" stormed the firm for installation of intercoms.

In Odessa, for example fighting against separatism began, expressed in apartments searches "separatist" organization Right Sector. The separatists were not those who openly or secretly is or is struggling with the nationalist regime. But the families of seamen, usually on journey. And it's simple. It is a family of sailors has always been considered in Odessa the most prosperous. And the presence in the apartment of savings in hard currency is reason enough for suspicion of separatism.

Separatist is a teacher at the school, giving bad grades. It is possible to write a statement. Not even to the police, but to the Right Sector or another nationalist organization. And, you can be sure that the teacher will be fired.

Separatist is an employee of the University whose degree does not give sleep to graduate from Ternopil.

Separatist is a businessman who refused volunteers money for the volunteer battalions.

Separatist is the singer, whose producer does not make contributions to the various nationalist military organization.

Simply put, separatist, it is he who has something to take away.

All these separatists divided by income level. The benefits that one can get from. And do struggle with them, or rather, the extraction of profit, patriots of different levels.

Teachers - students, businessmen, athletes, retired bankers. Because non-payment of pensions is also the fight against the separatists, which are representatives of the older generation.

Thus, the separatists are a major source of income for the system, built winning Maidan.

Therefore, the most valuable thing that remained on postukrainskogo space, it separatists. And this wealth will never end, because they can just assign.

And even if they do not have something to take away, they can still be abused. That masterly proved SBU on the example of the exchange of prisoners.

It has long been known that the Ukrainian military and fighters Arbatov, in consequence of its lack of organization and the natural stupidity of command, are massively in captivity, where they are fed and taught to useful work.

But the Minsk agreements, they need to exchange for captured fighters of Novorossia. That is, they are missing. They kill them, because.

But to give someone in need. Here SBU and delays throughout the territory of the separatists.

That is, there is the detention of a citizen of Ukraine male, whereby charges of separatism. And that's enough to send him to the East in exchange for prisoners of war.

If this man will fancy after release to return to place of residence, it is possible to delay and swap again. And so on to infinity.

And it turns out that the hostage is now a whole country.

And all this is not an assumption, not fantasy. Ask in Odessa or Odessa. In Dnepropetrovsk and Zaporozhye. Kherson or Nikolaev.
All this is borne out by the fates, specific events, specific facts.
And this is nothing new. Invaders always Rob the local population and use him as a hostage.
And no matter what they call themselves. Supermen or just patriots. The end they always have one. And will they pay off, and to exchange them, no one will.
Just let them know about it.