Haben die Nlengethwas das "help help help" nicht erst nach den Schlägen gehört?infinitas schrieb:Die Vorhänge zog er davor auf..
Zum Kabel habe ich noch folgendes Posting gefunden.BaroninVonPorz schrieb:Den Einwurf der Verteidigung hinsichtlich des Kabels halte ich zunächst auch für eine der bereits üblichen Nebelkerzen. Es ist ein Versuch, die Polizei weiter zu diskreditieren, um auf Nebenschauplätzen von der eigenen Misere abzulenken.
Ein Interesse daran, dass Kabel verschwinden zu lassen, hat wohl weniger die Polizei als der Angeklagte selbst. Die Schlüssel zum Haus wurden ja bereits am Sonntag, den 17.2.2013, an Stander ausgehändigt. Erst nach dem Kreuzverhör in diesem Jahr sucht man von Seiten der Verteidigung nach dem Kabel, nachdem inzwischen Hinz und Kunz Zugang zum Haus hatten.
Das Kabel taucht nicht auf der Liste der beschlagnahmten Gegenstände der Polizei auf, ist also im Haus verblieben. Dass es im Rahmen der Untersuchungen umplatziert wurde und daher auf späteren Fotos nicht mehr an derselben Stelle zu sehen ist, ist wohl grundsätzlich auch ein normaler Vorgang.
1. State had absolutely NO foreseeable reason or ANY possible way of knowing that the fan would eventually become relevant to the murder case… much less the extension cord to which the fan was connected.weiter:
2. State conducted their forensic investigations between 14 and 17 February 2013… the ONLY statement they had to go on from Oscar Pistorius was that he shot Reeva in the toilet cubicle thinking she was intruder.
3. All items seized by the State were inventoried… the extension cord does NOT appear in said inventory which was divulged to the Defence during discovery.
4. State released the house to the Defence on 17 February 2013.
5. The FIRST time the fan was even mentioned was in a prologue to the events during the bail application between 19 and 23 February 2013.
6. The FIRST time the fan was put forth as an integral part of Oscar's version of events was during Oscar's testimony in chief between 7 and 9 April 2014.
7. The FIRST time the physical impossibility of the fan's location was put forth was during Oscar's cross-examination between 9 and 15 April 2014.
8. Oscar Pistorius sold and vacated his house in May 2014.
9. The FIRST time Defence requested the State to produce the extension cord because it was important to their case was on 6 June 2014.
10. Roux alleges that the State must have seized the extension cord because on 14 February 2013 it was photographed next to the bed and on 15 February 2013 it was no longer next to the bed… Police investigators cannot and do not ever inventory every single item contained within a house.
11. I suspect the hair clipper that was next to the bed was also moved… Roux could request the State to produce it as well. This fallacious reasoning and underhanded tactic could be applied to any and all items that were moved but never seized… Ridiculous !
12. Roux alleges the extension cord is 5 meters in length… absolutely LUDICROUS… One can clearly see on the photographs without any possible doubt that the extension cord cannot even reach the length of the bed… the longest standard bed available is 2.13 meters long and the extension cord stretches approximately 2/3 of the bed's length : this means that the extension cord is about 1.5 meters in length… Roux would have the Court believe that the extension cord is more than 3 times longer than its actual length !!!
Roux is obviously desperate : not having been able to deliver a remotely plausible Defence, he is attempting to confuse the Court on all fronts.
- Although the extension cord was missing from the house and it did not appear in the inventory, why did the Defence not inquire on its whereabout on 17 February 2013 ?
- Although the extension cord was relevant ONLY to Oscar's version of events, why did the Defence wait 16 months to inquire on its whereabout ?
- Although the extension cord was of great importance for Oscar's credibility, why did the Defence wait 2 months after Oscar finished his testimony to inquire on its whereabout ?
The State had control of the contents of the house for 3.5 days and had no way of knowing the extension would be relevant until 14 months later, when Oscar Pistorius testified.
Oscar Pistorius had control of the contents of his house for about 478 days… he knew the fan was important and that the length of the extension cord contradicted his version of events… it does not take a rocket scientist to figure out what happened with that extension cord !!
I believe that producing the extension cord is not the responsibility of the State… they did not seize it… it was never an element of their case.
Photographs are evidence… and even if one cannot determine the exact length of the extension cord, one can surely see how much slack is available… so I don't see anything being struck from the record on such basis.
The extension cord and the fan placement was part of the Defence case and version of events… the State merely tested this evidence and it failed miserably.Original anzeigen (0,2 MB)
Furthermore the photos are quite clear as to the length of the extension cord… no way is it 5 meters long as Roux is now alleging !!!
Oscar's bedroom is 4.559 meters long…. so a 5 meter long extension could stretch from behind the bedside table all the way to behind the Hi-Fi with about 0.5 meters to spare !!!…
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Channel 4 News speaks to one of South Africa's leading lawyers, Renier Spies, about how Mental health assessment outcome will affect the trial.
"I'm not alone when I say he was a terrible witness," Mr Spies told Channel 4 News. "Every aspect can be criticised: there were numerous material contradictions, I'm sure Gerrie Nel will criticise his demeanour and inherent improbabilities in his evidence."
But if independent assessors decide Pistorius does not have GAD, all of the efforts by the state to provide explanations for his actions can no longer be considered by the trial.
As a result, getting the court to refer him for independent assessment was a "stroke of genius" by prosecutors, said Mr Spies. "In a nutshell, it is the one thing that can destroy the defence case completely... They (prosecutors) can argue that at no stage relevant to any allegations was there anything wrong with him, on a psychological basis," Mr Spies told Channel 4 News.
"This would mean there are no excuses any more. And it would certainly empower the court to make the finding that Pistorius endeavoured to mislead everyone from the start... That is going to change the game quite drastically."
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Richtig! Nur, wenn man das Gesamtbild nicht besitzt, wird man versuchen, die Stückchen aufzublasen. Und das tut die Verteidigung die ganze Zeit.fortylicks schrieb:ein kleines Mosaikstückchen im großen Negativpuzzle.
Das andere Ende des Kabels ist auf dem Bild nicht zu sehen. 3 Meter Rolle hängt da hinten noch ... kann man behaupten.Evidence1 schrieb:Auf dem Bild sieht man eindeutig dass das Kabel niemals 5 Meter lang ist und Punkt.
:D Mein erster Lacher heute morgen :D
