Oscar Pistorius, das Model, der Valentinstag und das war dann Notwehr

Ocelot schrieb:...und laut Roux soll das auch OP gewesen sein.

KlaraFall schrieb:Ist er nicht niedlich???

Photographer73 schrieb:Mal ernsthaft, ich finde Roux macht einen verdammt guten Job. Er hat nicht wirklich was in der Hand, aber er holt das Maximum raus.

Photographer73 schrieb:Mal ernsthaft, ich finde Roux macht einen verdammt guten Job. Er hat nicht wirklich was in der Hand, aber er holt das Maximum raus.

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A few random thoughts...

For his story to work, Reeva had to have been in the bathroom to do what one usually does in the bathroom. I am guessing the police did not take a sample from the toilet water to check for evidence - fluid, TP?. If she had pottied, she would not yet have flushed or Oscar would have heard the flush and should have known it was Reeva (if he was really unsure of who was in there). Since he says there was no noise, she either had gone or was in the process of going, and then wouldn't there be some indication of that at the crime scene? In other words, the lack of evidence that it was an innocent, yet ill-fated trip to the bathroom coinciding with moving a fan inside isn't a believable story because she would have tipped him off by flushing or there would have been some indication that she had just gone or was going at the crime scene. Sorry for the gross - it's just making me crazy that for his story to work - the trip to the bathroom is supposed to be completely ordinary and uneventful. And she wouldn't be clutching strands of her own hair but a piece of TP - right?

Secondly, I just re-read the indictment and was reminded that he is charged with premeditated murder of Reeva. He is still guilty if he intended to kill an intruder but it turns out it is not an intruder. I am not sure what it is called in SA, but in the US - that's the "transferred intent" doctrine. A case of mistaken identity is not a defense to murder. So I assume, he is claiming self defense, which I would assume requires him to testify. I am curious what the various burdens of proof are in SA. As in the Jodi case, she had the burden to prove self defense but it was a lower burden than the State's burden to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. Anyone know what Oscar would have to prove to establish self defense? I would think premeditated murder would be a slam dunk even if there was an intruder becasue he certainly intended to kill someone - 4 shots into a locked death trap with those insanely deisgned to kill bullets. Sickening.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=237618&page=39

noonoose schrieb:Hatte/n die beiden nicht getrennte Termine am nächsten Tag?

MrSmith schrieb:Ich hatte spontan überlegt, ob sie das wohl wirklich selber geschrieben hat, aber das war nur so ein spontaner Gedanke.

Tussinelda schrieb:ich verstehe nicht, warum man immer schreibt, dass ab Punkt 22:00 alle in den Tiefschlaf gefallen sein sollen......um 22:00 HERUM begab man sich ins Schlafzimmer, machte Yoga, schaute TV (oder Pornos) und erst als Yoga beendet war (wann auch immer) legte man sich schlafen.....so die Aussage.....das ist keine definitive Zeitangabe für irgendetwas

By about 22h00 on 13 February 2013 we were in our bedroom. She was doing her yoga exercises and I was in bed watching television. My prosthetic legs were off. We were deeply in love and I could not be happier. I know she felt the same way. She had given me a present for Valentine's Day but asked me only to open it the next day.
After Reeva finished her yoga exercises she got into bed and we both fell asleep.