Oscar Pistorius, das Model, der Valentinstag und das war dann Notwehr

Tussinelda schrieb:bei den Schreien ist eben die Frage, ob die Abstände bis zum Kopfschuss tatsächlich so lang waren, dass man Schreie, wie von den Zeugen beschrieben, hätte hören können, wenn der Abstand sagen wir 4 sec war zwischen erstem Schuss und letztem oder auch 10 sec, dann ist es eher zweifelhaft, wenn davon wach wurde, das geschossen wurde, dann so genau so kurze Schreie identifizieren zu wollen

SecretLetter schrieb:da kann man ja eigentlich was draus schließen... :D

Didn't Roux insist that OP had bashed the panels in and not ripped them out with his bare hands? I seem to recall wondering about that particular discussion.



Yes, he did - he has to insist that if he's going to try and persuade us that the gunshots Stipp heard were OP smashing down the door.

That door shows no indication at all of being "smashed in". There are no dents and it barely splintered. The pieces of the door are all fairly neat planks, indicating that it was prised out rather than bashed out.

I don't think anyone heard OP smashing in a door, there was nothing much to hear, other than the glue holding the bits of wood together cracking.

The ONLY evidence that OP smashed down the door comes from OP saying he did.....and for the life of me, I am not quite sure why we should be willing to dismiss the credible evidence of three independent people in order to fit with the statements made by an accused murderer facing 25 years in prison.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=238797&page=33

poirot13 schrieb:auch eine 99%ige schuldwahrscheinlichkeit reicht nicht für einen schuldspruch für absichtliche tötung

KlaraFall schrieb:That door shows no indication at all of being "smashed in". There are no dents and it barely splintered. The pieces of the door are all fairly neat planks, indicating that it was prised out rather than bashed out.

I don't think anyone heard OP smashing in a door, there was nothing much to hear, other than the glue holding the bits of wood together cracking.

The ONLY evidence that OP smashed down the door comes from OP saying he did.....and for the life of me, I am not quite sure why we should be willing to dismiss the credible evidence of three independent people in order to fit with the statements made by an accused murderer facing 25 years in prison.

KlaraFall schrieb:Didn't Roux insist that OP had bashed the panels in and not ripped them out with his bare hands? I seem to recall wondering about that particular discussion.

KlaraFall schrieb:Aber viel Wucht hat es dazu nicht gebraucht.

Tussinelda schrieb:..ich denke schon, das die rausgeschlagen wurden, sonst hätte O.P., wenn er beim Schiessen durch die Ritze hätte schauen wollen, ja die Pistole ganz nah an der Tür haben müssen und der Mindestabstand waren ja 60cm, die Tür ist ja defintif durchschossen