Der Prozess Oscar Pistorius und der Tod von Reeva Steenkamp

@FF

Die Quelle websleuths ist angegeben und einen Beitrag vorher auch der link dazu.

Aber der Korrektheit halber...

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?264468-Discussion-Thread-60-14-9-12-the-appeal&goto=nextnewest

Danke! :)

http://www.news24.com/MyNews24/How-to-tell-if-you-are-a-Pistorian-20150226 (Archiv-Version vom 27.02.2015)

Du bist ein Pistorian, wenn......:)

OP hat wohl Angst, im Gefängnis vergiftet zu werden und isst nur selbstgekaufte Konserven....dadurch hätte
er stark abgenommen. Und Kontakt hätte er nur zu dem tchechischen Schwerverbrecher eine Zelle neben ihm.

http://www.iol.co.za/news/crime-courts/oscar-goes-from-caviar-to-chakalaka-1.1826721#.VPba9_mG-Ed

Aus dem o.g. Artikel

It’s expected that he will be out on parole in October, serving out the rest of his five-year sentence under correctional supervision.

Das ist das Ziel und darum futtert er auch nur den Dosenfraß. Weiterhin wird man dem stattgeben, weil:

According to the report, Pistorius has lost so much weight that his prosthetic legs no longer fit.

A prosthetics expert says ill-fitting prostheses can lead to blisters, sores and infection on Pistorius’s residual limbs

und

But Pistorius is so depressed that he is not making use of his friend’s generous offer to use the equipment.

Die Gewichtsabnahme bei der Ernährung und ohne Sport, für einen Leistungssporter, liegt in der Natur der Sache.

Also untermauert man das noch mit der gesundheitlichen Komponente und dem Hausarrest steht fast nix mehr im Weg^^

Moment, irgendwas war da doch noch......ach ja, der appeal! :D

Interested schrieb:Die Gewichtsabnahme bei der Ernährung und ohne Sport, für einen Leistungssporter, liegt in der Natur der Sache.

Völlig richtig - und das ein oder andere nicht vorhandene "Nahrungsergänzungsmittel" steht ja auch nicht mehr zur Verfügung ;)
Obwohl, ein wenig Muskeltraining kann er ja machen; sein schwerkrimineller Mithäftling nebenan verfügt doch über einige Geräte,
an denen man das trainieren kann - und die soll OP ja auch schon genutzt haben....

Und diese klitzekleine Kleinigkeit mit dem appeal scheint er erfolgreich zu verdrängen; schaun wir mal! :)

Interested schrieb:But Pistorius is so depressed that he is not making use of his friend’s generous offer to use the equipment.

Nee, nutzt er doch nicht, weil er zu depressiv dafür ist. :)

Nel bleibt zuversichtlich und optimistisch. Hier wendet er sich mit Erklärungen bzgl. seiner Vorbereitungen an Studenten der University of KwaZulu-Natal.
Die NPA rechnet noch dieses Jahr mit einem Gerichtstermin.

Gerrie Nel addressed law students at the University of KZN

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@Grins
toller Fund, dieses Video!
Und es zeigt einen sehr gelösten Nel; mir kommt er auch zuversichtlich vor. Na dann warten wir die kurze Zeit noch ab bis es weitere Neuigkeiten gibt! ;)

– Han har förlorat i vikt, det är ingen tvekan om det, men han är i fängelse, säger Pistorius advokat Brian Webber enligt tidningen.
http://www.expressen.se/sport/friidrott/pistorius-radd-for-mat--efter-fangarnas-hot/


Dass OP etwas Gewicht verloren hat, sei ja eine Selbsverständigkeit im Gefängnis, laut seinem Advokat Webber.
Woanders wunderte Webber, er habe über die Bedrohungen und Vergiftungsgefahr nichts gehört. Es wäre doch logisch gewesen, dass OP auch ihn darüber informiert.

Ich glaube, es geht um die Vorbereitungen, OP aus der Zelle raus zu bringen. Vorzeitig, noch vor 10-monatigen frist.

Gewichtsabnahme?

Anders lautende Berichte schreiben davon, dass einer von Oscars Hunden ihn täglich besuchen darf und dieser ihm alles wegfrisst!!!

http://blogimgs.only-apartments.com/images/only-apartments/6285/abendessen-gesellschaft-ihres-vierbeiners-barcelona.jpg

Alles nachzulesen in der neuesten Ausgabe der Boxer-Zeitschrift "Der Hund" :-)

Eine Stellungnahme (von Mandy Wiener) die man durchaus teilen kann:

http://ewn.co.za/2015/03/03/OPINION-Mandy-Wiener-A-year-on-how-Pistorius-changed-the-way-we-see-the-law (Archiv-Version vom 06.03.2015)

scorpius schrieb:Eine Stellungnahme (von Mandy Wiener) die man durchaus teilen kann

ZB das hier?

Masipa was also at pains to make it clear that the rich and famous won’t benefit from a different kind of law simply because of their celebrity status or wealth. She wanted to be sure that the public knew that all are equal before the law.

Für mich wurde das, dass rich and famous ganz andere Rechte haben, besonders gravierend nochmals fettig unterstrichen! Eben dank Masipa!

@fortylicks

fortylicks schrieb:toller Fund, dieses Video!
Und es zeigt einen sehr gelösten Nel; mir kommt er auch zuversichtlich vor. Na dann warten wir die kurze Zeit noch ab bis es weitere Neuigkeiten gibt! ;)

Es gibt noch einen Artikel dazu.

http://www.sabc.co.za/news/a/098700004785ab688cf2ee42d945d4b0/-

Und noch einen.

Our Nel is such a fun guy!





March 5, 2015 at 01:20pm

By SIHLE MLAMBO

Durban - Hotshot advocate Gerrie Nel – the Oscar Pistorius trial prosecutor – on Wednesday shared legal tips with law students in Durban and revealed his favourite courtroom drama – Legally Blonde.

(Gerrie Nel joked around and gave the law hopefuls advice at a packed lecture hall at the University of KwaZulu-Natal Howard College campus. Picture: Nqobile Mbonambi.)
(Credit: DAILY NEWS)

Far from the ruthless and stern prosecutor many South Africans witnessed during the Pistorius trial last year, Nel showed his lighter side, joked around and gave the law hopefuls advice at a packed lecture hall at the University of KwaZulu-Natal Howard College campus.

He was speaking on “The Life of a Prosecutor” and revealed that he had never considered joining the private sector.

He said South Africa had “brilliant prosecutors” and he was merely “lucky” to represent the State in many high-profile cases.

Helping victims “restore justice” was the most important and fulfilling part of his job as a prosecutor, he added.

Nel referred to the Pistorius trial numerous times, but did not mention the former Olympian’s name during the one hour-long lecture.

Giving advice to the students, he said it was important that they knew the case they had taken and the defence team. He also stressed the importance of the consultation process with witnesses.

His “golden rule” was to always make it clear to witnesses that whatever was said and done during consultation, he had no problem with that being heard in court.

At times witnesses lost their credibility by being unsure, when asked questions in court that they did not expect to be asked – even about things that had been discussed during consultation, he explained.

Regarding cross-examination, he said in many trials, he had seen opposing counsel miss opportunities to exploit answers given by a witness because they were too focused on asking prepared questions than actively listening to answers.

“An opportunity is missed by not following up on answers. Don’t always pursue your line of cross-examination. Follow on the answers, even if you know a person is trying to sidetrack you.”

Nel revealed that he was not a fan of Hollywood court dramas, but said he did enjoy My Cousin Vinny and Legally Blonde.

Affirming his point of listening to answers, he referred to Legally Blonde, in which a fashion-conscious lawyer who knew all about hairdressing struggled with her cross-examination until she listened to the answer given by a witness (who was really the murderer in the case) who testified that she had taken a shower after having a perm (which is not done).

The accused cracked and confessed to the crime after this was pointed out.

Nel, however, told the law students that it was unlikely people would confess to crimes on the stand, and said instead of firing them up and saying, “You are lying”, it was more effective to suggest, “Could you not perhaps be mistaken?”

And what does it take to work on a big case?

“Commitment,” he said. “When everyone goes home you prepare for the next witness for the next day. That (commitment) never stops.”

On the subject of more trials being broadcast on television, he said it would be good for educating society about the criminal justice system.

“I think it’s brilliant. One of the principles of our courts is that of access to everything; you are entitled to get into any court and witness proceedings… I mean, who of us doesn’t know what’s going on in Parliament?

“We all sat there and we watched. Clever things happened there with all those motions and things and it’s brilliant, it’s exactly the same principle. If we have access to Parliament and we see what’s going on there, the mere fact that we are sitting in Durban and not in Cape Town is not an issue,” he said.

Reflecting on the Pistorius trial, he said it was incredible how much interest it had generated.

“It was a good thing (to broadcast); lots of people learned a lot,” he said.

At one stage he and Barry Roux (defence advocate) were talking “and I said to him, ‘The only two people in this country who really don’t know what’s going on are Barry and I’, because the rest of the people knew exactly what the judge would decide. Everybody knew much better.”

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Grins zitiert:

"At one stage he and Barry Roux (defence advocate) were talking “and I said to him, ‘The only two people in this country who really don’t know what’s going on are Barry and I’, because the rest of the people knew exactly what the judge would decide. Everybody knew much better.”

Dh, beide wussten genau, dass es nicht um Inhalt bei der Richterin geht ...

Am 10. März wird man wieder etwas von June Steekamp hören, wenn sie in Johannesburg ihr Buch vorstellt.
Selbst steht sie dem Appeal gelassen gegenüber, fragt stattdessen: "How is it going to help me?"

June Steenkamp, the mother of the late Reeva Steenkamp who was shot dead by her boyfriend Oscar Pistorius in 2013, speaks at the launch of her book, ‘Reeva, A Mothers Story.’ in Johannesburg Tuesday, March 10, 2015. Steenkamp said that she did not care about an upcoming appeal hearing by the star athlete. Pistorius’ lawyers will challenge a judge's decision to allow prosecutors to appeal the runner's negligent killing conviction later this week.The mother of the South African woman killed by athlete Oscar Pistorius said on Tuesday that she does not care about an upcoming appeal, even if it leads to a harsher sentence for the Paralympic medalist.
"How is it going to help me?" June Steenkamp, the mother of Pistorius' slain girlfriend asked.
Pistorius' lawyers will later this week challenge a judge's decision to allow prosecutors to appeal the runner's negligent killing conviction for shooting Reeva Steenkamp in 2013. Prosecutors want Pistorius convicted of the more serious crime of murder and were granted permission to take the case to South Africa's Supreme Court of Appeal.
Steenkamp instead is focusing on the planned Reeva Rebecca Steenkamp Foundation to combat domestic violence and the book she wrote about her daughter.
Steenkamp would not be drawn into questions about whether she believed her daughter was a victim of domestic violence. Instead, she urged women to speak out about abuse, when she discussed her book and the foundation at a public event at the University of Johannesburg.
"Teach your daughters to have the confidence to come forward. I knew nothing about Oscar's guns and his way of life," Steenkamp said. "It was very strange that they were fighting in a three month relationship."
Steenkamp held up the book she has written about her daughter as she spoke, and took the opportunity to discuss "Reeva: A Mother's Story," published in November last year.
"She was, in the trial, referred to as 'the deceased.' She became invisible. People forgot that someone died here. My daughter died. Horribly."
Despite her heartbreak, Steenkamp said she is not seeking revenge against the amputee athlete.
"I don't want him to suffer in any way, because he's a disabled person," said Steenkamp to loud applause from the packed room.
The foundation will do the work the slain model would have done if she had lived, said Steenkamp. Shortly before her death, Reeva Steenkamp was preoccupied by the rape and murder of a South African teenager, she said.
"This is the work she left for me," she said.

https://www.facebook.com/1486937788213913/photos/a.1487361571504868.1073741829.1486937788213913/1586677724906585/?type=1

Da hat June Steenkamp ja auch Recht; ihre Tochter ist tot und kommt nicht zurück. Und ein anderes Urteil ändert daran nichts.
Währenddessen spielt OP im Knast Fussball mit seinem neuen Kumpel; sooo schlecht scheint es ihm also nicht zu gehen ;)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2989365/Oscar-Pistorius-playing-football-prison-alleged-gangster.html

Der ist wirklich sehr depressiv und wackelig auf den Beinen :( er muss da wirklich sehr sehr dringend raus!!!!