Künstler - Motivations Gruppe
16.05.2009 um 13:49ich wurde durch Dragon Ball zum malen gebracht ^^... irgendwie schon komisch
Künstler - Motivations Gruppe
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22.05.2009 um 16:09Kukuz ihr.
Ich habe eine Frage, bei der mir fats jeder von euch helfen kann.
Momentan arbeite ich an einem ca.2000 woerter Aufsatz, der beschreiben soll was Kunst iz und wie sie entstand.
Habt ihr orgendwelche Vorschlaege ueber Bilder, die ich auf jeden Fall erwaehnen sollte?
Bestimmte nicht besonders bekannten Informationen die ich zusaetzlich einfuegen koennte?
Was duerfte sonst noch auf keinen Fall fehlen?
Ich bin leider verdammt schlecht in der Gliederung von Aufsaetzen....-.-
Ich habe eine Frage, bei der mir fats jeder von euch helfen kann.
Momentan arbeite ich an einem ca.2000 woerter Aufsatz, der beschreiben soll was Kunst iz und wie sie entstand.
Habt ihr orgendwelche Vorschlaege ueber Bilder, die ich auf jeden Fall erwaehnen sollte?
Bestimmte nicht besonders bekannten Informationen die ich zusaetzlich einfuegen koennte?
Was duerfte sonst noch auf keinen Fall fehlen?
Ich bin leider verdammt schlecht in der Gliederung von Aufsaetzen....-.-
Künstler - Motivations Gruppe
22.05.2009 um 16:36Künstler - Motivations Gruppe
22.05.2009 um 23:03@Pantheratigris
An sich um Kunst, Kunstgeschichte, einzelne Kunstwerke...die Definition. Einfach...alles -.-
An sich um Kunst, Kunstgeschichte, einzelne Kunstwerke...die Definition. Einfach...alles -.-
Künstler - Motivations Gruppe
22.05.2009 um 23:07ich hab ein buch über kunst, darin steht alles drin ursprünge, kunst arten etc.
http://www.amazon.de/Kompakt-Visuell-Kunst-Robert-Cumming/dp/3831009511/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1243026390&sr=8-1
vielleicht ist das ja was für dich ;)
@KoMaCoPy
http://www.amazon.de/Kompakt-Visuell-Kunst-Robert-Cumming/dp/3831009511/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1243026390&sr=8-1
vielleicht ist das ja was für dich ;)
@KoMaCoPy
Künstler - Motivations Gruppe
22.05.2009 um 23:10Nya...ich muss den spaetestens dienstag fertig haben, da iz bestellen nicht gerade das richtige. Ich brauch ja nur so...tipps wie ich den machen sollte und schreiben muss ich auf englisch.
Künstler - Motivations Gruppe
22.05.2009 um 23:14hm achso... gute frage wie man es machen muss...
auf jedenfall bekannte künstler nennen und die renessaince zeit... fällt mir jetzt spontan ein
also Leonardo Da Vinci, Raphael.... oder heute Salvatore Dalí
auf jedenfall bekannte künstler nennen und die renessaince zeit... fällt mir jetzt spontan ein
also Leonardo Da Vinci, Raphael.... oder heute Salvatore Dalí
Künstler - Motivations Gruppe
22.05.2009 um 23:22So...hiermal der Anfang bzw der raue entwurf meines Aufsatzes bis jetzt.
Kommt noch einiges zwischendrin dazu und noch mehr von meiner eigenen Meinung bzw...noch mehr ueber Kunsttheorie und...es werden noch Kuenstler erwaehnt. kA ob das irgendwie nen wirklichen Sinn ergibt und ob das gut genug wird...*sfz*
To begin with, here is my own opinion about the definition of Art.
Art is what you make of it, when you see something, feel about it, interpret it and the way you chose the media which matches the best for oneself as well as the arrangement . A combination of skill, knowledge, practice and concept. Comparable to looking to a magic window which shows others the way an artist sees the world. Even tough art is the description of any skill or mastery.
The fact that there is no art in the world but artists, is something which reassures us, that it is something manmade and comes only from the human mind.
"In order correctly to define art, it is necessary, first of all, to cease to consider it as a means to pleasure and to consider it as one of the conditions of human life." Leo Tolstoi
Tolstoi described it in a critical way in the viewers position, which is really very relevant to what most people actually think and that connects the artist with the viewer in the means of communication.
But the actual word art can be interpreted in many different ways as for example the study, the process, the product and indeed the audience. It's origin comes from the skill, by means to show something you can.
The art area is put together of fine art, theatre, literature and music.
The history of art began about 40.000 years ago with cave paintings, sculptures, rock paintings and petroglyphs, but that doesn't mean it didn't exist before, because scientists have found a collection of drilled snail shells in South Africa, as it was made for decoration, which brings us back up to 75.000 years ago.
Although the most known art foundations lie in ancient civilizations like Persia Mesopotania, India, ancient Greece, Rome and Arabia. All these have had the most influence of the ongoing history of art and from there on it developed in what we call art now, like for example the Greeks with their superrealistic studies of bodies. By that time art was only considered as craft.
As the Western Middle ages approached everything became more religious rather than telling the truth and art became separated in "artes mechanicaes" and "artes liebrales" which included medicine and philosophy. Everything used to be flat by then and was mostly for commercial use.
Followed by the Renaissance which represented the valuation of the material world and made everything seem nice and golden and it was the beginning of 3 dimensional painting and drawing. Artists weren't seen anymore as craftsmen.'The idea that "truth" could be discovered through the application of reason was tremendously exciting.'
In the 18th century was called as the Age of Enlightenment showed for the first time emotions and individuality of single persons and artistic movements started at the late 19th century, like academic art, symbolism, fauvism and impressionism. The leading people were Thomas Jefferson, Galileo Galilei and Isaac Newton. It was amazing that they finally discovered the aesthetics, what made people start to rely on the meaning of art. A huge discovery about the world moving around the sun was a catastrophe in the eyes of the church.
During the two world wars art changed mainly by unprecedented technological development and was not anymore seen like before. It was depicting the happenings and some new art movements appeared called Expressionism, Dadaism and Surrealism. Art became more political and started showing protest in the artists minds. Einstein and Freud influenced that a lot. In 20th century art there are artist who were very much influenced by western art , as for example Pablo Picasso and later Matisse partl as well from african sculptures. Japanese woodprints were influenced by impressionism.
'Similarly, the west has had huge impacts on Eastern art in 19th and 20th century, with originally western ideas like Communism and Post-Modernism exerting powerful influence on artistic styles.'[w.] From that on there came the Relativism which was the influence by contemporary art and the post-modern critisism.
Cultures began to mix up a lot and it became even harder to seperate where the influences came from.
"To produce a perfect pearl the oyster needs some piece of matter .... round which the pearl can form . If the artist's feelings for form and color are to crystallize, he too needs such a hard core -- a definite task on which he can bring his gifts to bear."[G.A.p 594]
This quote shows us, that not everyone has the strong motivation to really show what he bears inside and my opinion to that is, that artists are peolple who might have more problems to solve these inner feelings and that is the reason why they seek for other medias to help.
Kommt noch einiges zwischendrin dazu und noch mehr von meiner eigenen Meinung bzw...noch mehr ueber Kunsttheorie und...es werden noch Kuenstler erwaehnt. kA ob das irgendwie nen wirklichen Sinn ergibt und ob das gut genug wird...*sfz*
To begin with, here is my own opinion about the definition of Art.
Art is what you make of it, when you see something, feel about it, interpret it and the way you chose the media which matches the best for oneself as well as the arrangement . A combination of skill, knowledge, practice and concept. Comparable to looking to a magic window which shows others the way an artist sees the world. Even tough art is the description of any skill or mastery.
The fact that there is no art in the world but artists, is something which reassures us, that it is something manmade and comes only from the human mind.
"In order correctly to define art, it is necessary, first of all, to cease to consider it as a means to pleasure and to consider it as one of the conditions of human life." Leo Tolstoi
Tolstoi described it in a critical way in the viewers position, which is really very relevant to what most people actually think and that connects the artist with the viewer in the means of communication.
But the actual word art can be interpreted in many different ways as for example the study, the process, the product and indeed the audience. It's origin comes from the skill, by means to show something you can.
The art area is put together of fine art, theatre, literature and music.
The history of art began about 40.000 years ago with cave paintings, sculptures, rock paintings and petroglyphs, but that doesn't mean it didn't exist before, because scientists have found a collection of drilled snail shells in South Africa, as it was made for decoration, which brings us back up to 75.000 years ago.
Although the most known art foundations lie in ancient civilizations like Persia Mesopotania, India, ancient Greece, Rome and Arabia. All these have had the most influence of the ongoing history of art and from there on it developed in what we call art now, like for example the Greeks with their superrealistic studies of bodies. By that time art was only considered as craft.
As the Western Middle ages approached everything became more religious rather than telling the truth and art became separated in "artes mechanicaes" and "artes liebrales" which included medicine and philosophy. Everything used to be flat by then and was mostly for commercial use.
Followed by the Renaissance which represented the valuation of the material world and made everything seem nice and golden and it was the beginning of 3 dimensional painting and drawing. Artists weren't seen anymore as craftsmen.'The idea that "truth" could be discovered through the application of reason was tremendously exciting.'
In the 18th century was called as the Age of Enlightenment showed for the first time emotions and individuality of single persons and artistic movements started at the late 19th century, like academic art, symbolism, fauvism and impressionism. The leading people were Thomas Jefferson, Galileo Galilei and Isaac Newton. It was amazing that they finally discovered the aesthetics, what made people start to rely on the meaning of art. A huge discovery about the world moving around the sun was a catastrophe in the eyes of the church.
During the two world wars art changed mainly by unprecedented technological development and was not anymore seen like before. It was depicting the happenings and some new art movements appeared called Expressionism, Dadaism and Surrealism. Art became more political and started showing protest in the artists minds. Einstein and Freud influenced that a lot. In 20th century art there are artist who were very much influenced by western art , as for example Pablo Picasso and later Matisse partl as well from african sculptures. Japanese woodprints were influenced by impressionism.
'Similarly, the west has had huge impacts on Eastern art in 19th and 20th century, with originally western ideas like Communism and Post-Modernism exerting powerful influence on artistic styles.'[w.] From that on there came the Relativism which was the influence by contemporary art and the post-modern critisism.
Cultures began to mix up a lot and it became even harder to seperate where the influences came from.
"To produce a perfect pearl the oyster needs some piece of matter .... round which the pearl can form . If the artist's feelings for form and color are to crystallize, he too needs such a hard core -- a definite task on which he can bring his gifts to bear."[G.A.p 594]
This quote shows us, that not everyone has the strong motivation to really show what he bears inside and my opinion to that is, that artists are peolple who might have more problems to solve these inner feelings and that is the reason why they seek for other medias to help.
Künstler - Motivations Gruppe
23.05.2009 um 07:51Klingt doch schon @KoMaCoPy
Ich würde diese vier Kategorien : darstellende Kunst, Theater, Musik & Literatur nochmal einzeln anführen und dann dazu immer wat in Sachen Geschichte, Entwicklung, moderner Stand und vielleicht eine kleinere Zeitübersicht definieren.
In Sachen Theater kann ich dir da morgen noch bissel helfen, les grad selber son kleines Büchlein zur Übersicht über die Entwicklung der Theaterkultur von der Bronzezeit bis jetzt.
Ich würde diese vier Kategorien : darstellende Kunst, Theater, Musik & Literatur nochmal einzeln anführen und dann dazu immer wat in Sachen Geschichte, Entwicklung, moderner Stand und vielleicht eine kleinere Zeitübersicht definieren.
In Sachen Theater kann ich dir da morgen noch bissel helfen, les grad selber son kleines Büchlein zur Übersicht über die Entwicklung der Theaterkultur von der Bronzezeit bis jetzt.
Künstler - Motivations Gruppe
23.05.2009 um 09:16musst da auch was über die ganzen schaffensarten der kunst hinein?... zb aquarell, öl, kreide, kohle etc...
Künstler - Motivations Gruppe
23.05.2009 um 20:18@wolfsrain
Das iz echt mal eine gute Idee, die ich dort miteinbringen kann...ob das dann wirklich passend iz und von mir erwartet iz, weiss ich nicht,a ber...mal schaun ^^
@Pantheratigris
Ich bin mir nicht sicher , ob ich wirklich auf die anderen Themen eingehen muss...*glubsch* Es geht eher um Fine arts, aber man sollte das vielleicht nur an den wichtigsten Anhaltspunkten kurz erwaehnen koennen.
Danke an euch beide :)
Das iz echt mal eine gute Idee, die ich dort miteinbringen kann...ob das dann wirklich passend iz und von mir erwartet iz, weiss ich nicht,a ber...mal schaun ^^
@Pantheratigris
Ich bin mir nicht sicher , ob ich wirklich auf die anderen Themen eingehen muss...*glubsch* Es geht eher um Fine arts, aber man sollte das vielleicht nur an den wichtigsten Anhaltspunkten kurz erwaehnen koennen.
Danke an euch beide :)
Künstler - Motivations Gruppe
24.05.2009 um 01:26copics? copics! <3
oder touchs ne günstige alternative ^^
aufjedenfall gelungen! ich mag sowieso serien zeichnungen und fotografien :)
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hach wie ich diese stifte liebe <3
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oder touchs ne günstige alternative ^^
aufjedenfall gelungen! ich mag sowieso serien zeichnungen und fotografien :)
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hach wie ich diese stifte liebe <3
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24.05.2009 um 01:30@kisa
Es sind Touch Marker. Ich brauchte schnell 5 grautöne, und da waren die Touchmarker einfach unschlagbar günstig.
ABER Makergenerell sind eigentlich richtig scheisse in künstlerischen Belangen. Nur wenn man was flächig auftragen will, gehts einfach seh flott von der Hand. Besser ist da Aquarell so wie du es benutzt.
Es sind Touch Marker. Ich brauchte schnell 5 grautöne, und da waren die Touchmarker einfach unschlagbar günstig.
ABER Makergenerell sind eigentlich richtig scheisse in künstlerischen Belangen. Nur wenn man was flächig auftragen will, gehts einfach seh flott von der Hand. Besser ist da Aquarell so wie du es benutzt.
Künstler - Motivations Gruppe
24.05.2009 um 01:38jaja ich hab mir damals nen 24 er set touch twins geholt jeweils ein 12 er set grau töne und 12er set bunt gemischt.
aber nach ner weile hats mir net gelangt und hab mir dann copics geholt und noch so ein block, da die farben immer so extrem auslaufen auf normalen papier :)
ich finde schon das man den qualtitativen unterschied merkt, grade was das decken angeht (wie man oben links an der säule erkennt).
naja aber trotzdem mag ich aquarell und filzstifte nich :D is wirklich ein schweres gebiet, respekt!
@DeadPoet
aber nach ner weile hats mir net gelangt und hab mir dann copics geholt und noch so ein block, da die farben immer so extrem auslaufen auf normalen papier :)
ich finde schon das man den qualtitativen unterschied merkt, grade was das decken angeht (wie man oben links an der säule erkennt).
naja aber trotzdem mag ich aquarell und filzstifte nich :D is wirklich ein schweres gebiet, respekt!
@DeadPoet
Künstler - Motivations Gruppe
24.05.2009 um 01:42
Künstler - Motivations Gruppe
24.05.2009 um 01:48"aber nach ner weile hats mir net gelangt und hab mir dann copics geholt und noch so ein block, da die farben immer so extrem auslaufen auf normalen papier"
Vor allem weil ein normaler Block oder ein Skizzenbuch die Farbe regelrecht aufsaugt. Das wird mit der Zeit teuer. Einen Block extra für Marker sollte man sich unbedingt kaufen.
Vor allem weil ein normaler Block oder ein Skizzenbuch die Farbe regelrecht aufsaugt. Das wird mit der Zeit teuer. Einen Block extra für Marker sollte man sich unbedingt kaufen.
Künstler - Motivations Gruppe
24.05.2009 um 02:26jop jop da haste recht!!!!!
Künstler - Motivations Gruppe
24.05.2009 um 14:00Wennihr euch grad kreativ betätigt und nix macht, was selbst Geräusche macht, hört dabei Kammerflimmer Kollektiief !
Das ist so verdammt inspirierend oO :D
Das ist so verdammt inspirierend oO :D
Kammerflimmer Kollektief - Gras
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