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@johnholmes
>War mir klar aber ich gehe trotzdem nochmal auf dich ein.
>Du kannst also keinen Fall nennen der auf ausserirdische hinweisst (es gibt auch keinen deswegen >hake ich nicht nach), dann nenne mir wenigstens einen Fall indem eine "Flugmaschine" weit jenseits >unserer technischen Möglichkeiten als Erklärung offensichtlich ist.
Also wenn ich mir Deine Antwort bzw. Frage dreimal durchlese, frage ich mich ob es vielleicht eine Rhetorische Frage sein soll?
>Die Frage die Leute wie ich sich nämlich stellen ist weshalb ihr jedesmal hochentwickelte Maschinen >(von wem auch immer) als Erklärung in Betracht zieht wenn jemand Lichter am Himmel sieht.
Weil das Phänomen Weltweit verbreitet ist und jeweils unabhängig von einer ist und betrachtet wird und werden muss. Aussagen von Zeugen auf der ganzen Welt wurden registriert und die reichen wenn man es so will bis ins tiefste Mittelalter hinein. Selbst die alten Höhlenmalerei weißen Merkmale von runden Flugmaschinen auf. Und wenn man dann noch die Aussagen vom Militär, Luftwaffen und ranghohen Offizieren, etc… betrachtet, als auch die „jeweiligen“ Filmaufnahmen, kommt man zwangsläufig auf die Deine gestellte frage, warum sich Leute wie Du damit beschäftigen (natürlich ironisch gemeint), warum jedes Mal hoch entwickelte Maschinen (von wem auch immer) als Erklärung in Bertacht gezogen werden. Wobei ich natürlich immer darauf hinweisen möchte, dass lange nicht jede kleine Sichtung auch eine so genanntes UFO zu seinen scheint. Das wäre dann wohl auch etwas zu einfach. Wie schon oft von mir erwähnt sind doch gerade die nicht aufgeklärten Fälle die wirklich interessanten Fälle. Obwohl man auch über die angeblich aufgeklärten Fälle hin und wieder spekulieren kann. Nur wollen wir mal den Teufel nicht an die Wand malen wie es so schön heißt.
>Ein wenig mehr als eine "Zeugenaussage" über einen zick zack fliegenden Lichtpunkt sollte es aber >schon sein.
Nun es gibt wie Du vielleicht selber am besten weißt, eine Menge an Aussagen, Fotos und Filmmaterial, etc... . Ich bin mir auch sicher das hier posten könnte was ich will und Du wirst immer eine Antwort darauf haben, was ich ja eigentlich auch ganz richtig finde. Immerhin lasse ich mich wenn es hieb und stichfest ist, gerne vom Gegenteil überzeugen. Nichts des do trotz werde ich Dir mal den Gefallen erweisen und hier ein Beispiel an Aaussagen posten:
Mercury & Gemini Astronaut, Colonel Gordon Cooper
A saucer flew right over [us] and landed out on the dry lakebed. [The cameramen] went out with their cameras towards the UFO. I had a chance to hold [the film] up to the window to look at it. Good close-up shots. There was no doubt in my mind that it was someplace other than on this Earth. -- Video interview. Transcribed in Disclosure, Steven M. Greer, MD., ed., pp. 226 - 227. See also Gordon Cooper & Bruce Henderson, Leap of Faith: an Astronaut's Journey into the Unknown, pp. 80-91, 194 - 200.
FAA Division Chief of Accidents and Investigations, John Callahan
The UFO was bouncing around the 747. [It] was a huge ball with lights running around it�.Well, I've been involved in a lot of cover-ups with the FAA. When we gave the presentation to the Reagan staff, they had all those people swear that this never happened. But they never had me swear it never happened. I can tell you what I've seen with my own eyes. I've got a videotape. I've got the voice tape. I've got the reports that were filed that will confirm what I've been telling you. -- Video interview and Disclosure, pp. 80 - 85.
Former Chief of Defense, British Royal Navy, Admiral Lord Hill-Norton
I have frequently been asked why a person of my background-a former Chief of the Defense Staff, a former Chairman of the NATO Military Committee-why I think there is a cover-up [of] the facts about UFOs. I believe governments fear that if they did disclose those facts, people would panic. I don't believe that at all. There is a serious possibility that we are being visited by people from outer space. It behooves us to find out who they are, where they come from, and what they want. -- Video and Disclosure, pp. 305 - 307.
Former Director of CIA, Admiral R.H. Hillenkoetter
Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about the UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe the unknown flying objects are nonsense. To hide the facts, the Air Force has silenced its personnel. ---The New York Times, Sunday, February 28, 1960: "Air Force Order on 'Saucers' Cited," p. L30. See also Disclosure, p. 58.
US Navy Pilot, Lieutenant Frederick Fox
There is a [military] publication called JANAP 146E that has a section that says you will not reveal any information regarding the UFO phenomenon under penalty of $10,000 fine and ten years in jail. So the secret has been kept. -- Disclosure, pp. 145, 146.
Marine Corps, Corporal Jonathan Weygandt
[The UFO] was buried in the side of a cliff. When I first saw it, I was scared. I think the creatures calmed me�.[Later] I was arrested [by an Air Force officer]. He was saying, "Do you like the Constitution?" I'm like, "Yeah." He said, "We don't obey. We just do what we want. And if you tell anybody [about us or the UFO], you will just come up missing." -- Video and Disclosure, pp. 275 - 277.
UFO Message: Don't Mess With Nuclear Weapons
US Air Force, FAA, Captain Robert Salas
[The security guard called and] said, "Sir, there's a glowing red object hovering right outside the front gate. I've got all the men out here with their weapons drawn." We lost between 16 to 18 ICBMs [nuclear-tipped InterContinental Ballistic Missiles] at the same time UFOs were in the area�.[A high-ranking Air Force Officer] said, "Stop the investigation; do no more on this and do not write a final report." I heard that many of the guards that reported this incident were sent off to Viet Nam. -- Video and Disclosure, pp. 168-171.
US Air Force Lieutenant, Professor Robert Jacobs
So this thing [UFO] fires a beam of light at the warhead, hits it and then it moves to the other side and fires another beam of light. And the warhead tumbles out of space. What message would I interpret from that? [The UFOs were telling us] don't mess with nuclear warheads. Major Mannsman said, "You are never to speak of this again." After an article [about the incident years later], people would call and start screaming at me. One night somebody blew up my mailbox. -- Video and Disclosure, pp. 184, 187.
For full story see book Disclosure and witness videos at www.disclosureproject.org.
Disclosure Project has over 400 government and military witnesses prepared to testify on this subject.
More Cover-up: Advanced Technologies Developed from UFOs
Russian Air Force, Space Communications Center, General Vasily Alexeyev
As a rule, [places where UFOs appear] are objects of strategic significance�.[The Air Force] came up with a table with pictures of all the shapes of UFOs that had ever been recorded-about fifty-ranging from ellipses and spheres to something resembling spaceships�.The study of UFOs may reveal some new forms of energy to us, or at least bring us closer to a solution. -- Disclosure, pp. 345 - 347.
US Army, General Stephen Lovekin
Colonel Holomon brought out a piece of what appeared to be metallic debris. He went on to explain that this was material that had come from a New Mexico crash in 1947 of an extraterrestrial craft, and that was discussed at length�.I got an opportunity to travel with the President [Eisenhower]. He was very, very interested in what made [the UFOs] go. But what happened was that Eisenhower got sold out. He realized that he was losing control of the UFO subject. He realized that the [study of these technologies] was not going to be in the best hands. That was a real concern. -- Video interview and Disclosure, pp. 230 - 236.
US Air Force, Aerospace Illustrator, Mark McCandlish
This [US made] antigravity propulsion system-this flying saucer-was one of three that were in this hangar at Norton Air Force Base. They called [it] the Alien Reproduction Vehicle [ARV], also nicknamed the Flux Liner. -- Disclosure, p. 501.
US Marine Corps, Captain Bill Uhouse
The [flight] simulator was for the extraterrestrial craft they had - a 30 meter one that crashed in Kingman, Arizona, back in 1953. I was inside the actual alien craft for a start-up. There are probably two or three dozen [flying saucers] that we built. -- Disclosure, pp. 384, 385.
US Air Force, NRO Operative, Sergeant Dan Morris
UFOs are both extraterrestrial and manmade�.It's not that our government doesn't want us to know that there are other people on other planets. What the people in power don't want us to know is that this free energy [from energy generators developed with UFO technology] is available to everybody. So secrecy about the UFOs is because of the energy issue. When this knowledge is found out by the people, they will demand that our government release this technology, and it will change the world. -- Disclosure, pp. 364.
US Air Force, Colonel Charles Brown
I was getting 20 to 30% improvement in efficiency on an internal combustion engine. I sponsored the US Army race team on a racing car, [and] we won a race. [Then] the Federal Trade Commission performed an illegal act. I lost my vehicle, about $100,000 worth of equipment, and a test vehicle was stolen�.So in three weeks, psychologically I was wiped out. -- Disclosure, pp. 247 - 251.
US Army, Ph.D. in Nuclear Engineering, Colonel Thomas E. Bearden
Probably 50 inventors have invented [virtually cost-free energy systems]. If we use these systems, we can clean up this biosphere. But, what we have is a situation where the entire structure of science, industry, and the patent office are against you. And behind this, we have a few people who are quite wealthy. The more powerful the agency, the more they will resort not only to legal, but to extra-legal means to suppress their competition. Lethal force is used. -- Disclosure, pp. 534-542. See also www.cheniere.org.
The Grand War Plan: It's All Based on a Lie
Corporate Manager of Fairchild Industries, Spokesperson for Wernher Von Braun, Dr. Carol Rosin
Von Braun [founder of modern rocket science] told me [in 1974] that the reasons for space-based weaponry were all based on a lie. He said that the strategy was to use scare tactics-that first the Russians, then the terrorists are going to be considered the enemy. The next enemy was asteroids. "The last card is the alien card. We are going to have to build space-based weapons against aliens, and all of it is a lie."�.I was at a meeting in Fairchild Industries in the War Room. The conversation [was] about how they were going to antagonize these enemies and at some point, there was going to be a Gulf War. Now this is 1977! -- pp. 255 - 259.
Disclosure Project, Founder and Director, Steven M. Greer, M.D.
The situation is so dire that senior Joint Chiefs of Staff leaders in the Pentagon who I have briefed, have no more access to such projects than any other civilian-unless they are on the 'inside'. The government is really quite outside the loop. We have insiders and scientists who can prove that we do in fact possess energy generation systems capable of completely and permanently replacing all forms of currently used energy generation and transportation systems. Every single person who is concerned about the environment and the human future should call for urgent hearings to allow these technologies to be disclosed, declassified, and safely applied. -- Disclosure, pp. 14, 15, 567. See also Dr. Greer's websites at www.disclosureproject.org, and www.seaspower.com.
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@johnholmes
>War mir klar aber ich gehe trotzdem nochmal auf dich ein.
>Du kannst also keinen Fall nennen der auf ausserirdische hinweisst (es gibt auch keinen deswegen >hake ich nicht nach), dann nenne mir wenigstens einen Fall indem eine "Flugmaschine" weit jenseits >unserer technischen Möglichkeiten als Erklärung offensichtlich ist.
Also wenn ich mir Deine Antwort bzw. Frage dreimal durchlese, frage ich mich ob es vielleicht eine Rhetorische Frage sein soll?
>Die Frage die Leute wie ich sich nämlich stellen ist weshalb ihr jedesmal hochentwickelte Maschinen >(von wem auch immer) als Erklärung in Betracht zieht wenn jemand Lichter am Himmel sieht.
Weil das Phänomen Weltweit verbreitet ist und jeweils unabhängig von einer ist und betrachtet wird und werden muss. Aussagen von Zeugen auf der ganzen Welt wurden registriert und die reichen wenn man es so will bis ins tiefste Mittelalter hinein. Selbst die alten Höhlenmalerei weißen Merkmale von runden Flugmaschinen auf. Und wenn man dann noch die Aussagen vom Militär, Luftwaffen und ranghohen Offizieren, etc… betrachtet, als auch die „jeweiligen“ Filmaufnahmen, kommt man zwangsläufig auf die Deine gestellte frage, warum sich Leute wie Du damit beschäftigen (natürlich ironisch gemeint), warum jedes Mal hoch entwickelte Maschinen (von wem auch immer) als Erklärung in Bertacht gezogen werden. Wobei ich natürlich immer darauf hinweisen möchte, dass lange nicht jede kleine Sichtung auch eine so genanntes UFO zu seinen scheint. Das wäre dann wohl auch etwas zu einfach. Wie schon oft von mir erwähnt sind doch gerade die nicht aufgeklärten Fälle die wirklich interessanten Fälle. Obwohl man auch über die angeblich aufgeklärten Fälle hin und wieder spekulieren kann. Nur wollen wir mal den Teufel nicht an die Wand malen wie es so schön heißt.
>Ein wenig mehr als eine "Zeugenaussage" über einen zick zack fliegenden Lichtpunkt sollte es aber >schon sein.
Nun es gibt wie Du vielleicht selber am besten weißt, eine Menge an Aussagen, Fotos und Filmmaterial, etc... . Ich bin mir auch sicher das hier posten könnte was ich will und Du wirst immer eine Antwort darauf haben, was ich ja eigentlich auch ganz richtig finde. Immerhin lasse ich mich wenn es hieb und stichfest ist, gerne vom Gegenteil überzeugen. Nichts des do trotz werde ich Dir mal den Gefallen erweisen und hier ein Beispiel an Aaussagen posten:
Mercury & Gemini Astronaut, Colonel Gordon Cooper
A saucer flew right over [us] and landed out on the dry lakebed. [The cameramen] went out with their cameras towards the UFO. I had a chance to hold [the film] up to the window to look at it. Good close-up shots. There was no doubt in my mind that it was someplace other than on this Earth. -- Video interview. Transcribed in Disclosure, Steven M. Greer, MD., ed., pp. 226 - 227. See also Gordon Cooper & Bruce Henderson, Leap of Faith: an Astronaut's Journey into the Unknown, pp. 80-91, 194 - 200.
FAA Division Chief of Accidents and Investigations, John Callahan
The UFO was bouncing around the 747. [It] was a huge ball with lights running around it�.Well, I've been involved in a lot of cover-ups with the FAA. When we gave the presentation to the Reagan staff, they had all those people swear that this never happened. But they never had me swear it never happened. I can tell you what I've seen with my own eyes. I've got a videotape. I've got the voice tape. I've got the reports that were filed that will confirm what I've been telling you. -- Video interview and Disclosure, pp. 80 - 85.
Former Chief of Defense, British Royal Navy, Admiral Lord Hill-Norton
I have frequently been asked why a person of my background-a former Chief of the Defense Staff, a former Chairman of the NATO Military Committee-why I think there is a cover-up [of] the facts about UFOs. I believe governments fear that if they did disclose those facts, people would panic. I don't believe that at all. There is a serious possibility that we are being visited by people from outer space. It behooves us to find out who they are, where they come from, and what they want. -- Video and Disclosure, pp. 305 - 307.
Former Director of CIA, Admiral R.H. Hillenkoetter
Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about the UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe the unknown flying objects are nonsense. To hide the facts, the Air Force has silenced its personnel. ---The New York Times, Sunday, February 28, 1960: "Air Force Order on 'Saucers' Cited," p. L30. See also Disclosure, p. 58.
US Navy Pilot, Lieutenant Frederick Fox
There is a [military] publication called JANAP 146E that has a section that says you will not reveal any information regarding the UFO phenomenon under penalty of $10,000 fine and ten years in jail. So the secret has been kept. -- Disclosure, pp. 145, 146.
Marine Corps, Corporal Jonathan Weygandt
[The UFO] was buried in the side of a cliff. When I first saw it, I was scared. I think the creatures calmed me�.[Later] I was arrested [by an Air Force officer]. He was saying, "Do you like the Constitution?" I'm like, "Yeah." He said, "We don't obey. We just do what we want. And if you tell anybody [about us or the UFO], you will just come up missing." -- Video and Disclosure, pp. 275 - 277.
UFO Message: Don't Mess With Nuclear Weapons
US Air Force, FAA, Captain Robert Salas
[The security guard called and] said, "Sir, there's a glowing red object hovering right outside the front gate. I've got all the men out here with their weapons drawn." We lost between 16 to 18 ICBMs [nuclear-tipped InterContinental Ballistic Missiles] at the same time UFOs were in the area�.[A high-ranking Air Force Officer] said, "Stop the investigation; do no more on this and do not write a final report." I heard that many of the guards that reported this incident were sent off to Viet Nam. -- Video and Disclosure, pp. 168-171.
US Air Force Lieutenant, Professor Robert Jacobs
So this thing [UFO] fires a beam of light at the warhead, hits it and then it moves to the other side and fires another beam of light. And the warhead tumbles out of space. What message would I interpret from that? [The UFOs were telling us] don't mess with nuclear warheads. Major Mannsman said, "You are never to speak of this again." After an article [about the incident years later], people would call and start screaming at me. One night somebody blew up my mailbox. -- Video and Disclosure, pp. 184, 187.
For full story see book Disclosure and witness videos at www.disclosureproject.org.
Disclosure Project has over 400 government and military witnesses prepared to testify on this subject.
More Cover-up: Advanced Technologies Developed from UFOs
Russian Air Force, Space Communications Center, General Vasily Alexeyev
As a rule, [places where UFOs appear] are objects of strategic significance�.[The Air Force] came up with a table with pictures of all the shapes of UFOs that had ever been recorded-about fifty-ranging from ellipses and spheres to something resembling spaceships�.The study of UFOs may reveal some new forms of energy to us, or at least bring us closer to a solution. -- Disclosure, pp. 345 - 347.
US Army, General Stephen Lovekin
Colonel Holomon brought out a piece of what appeared to be metallic debris. He went on to explain that this was material that had come from a New Mexico crash in 1947 of an extraterrestrial craft, and that was discussed at length�.I got an opportunity to travel with the President [Eisenhower]. He was very, very interested in what made [the UFOs] go. But what happened was that Eisenhower got sold out. He realized that he was losing control of the UFO subject. He realized that the [study of these technologies] was not going to be in the best hands. That was a real concern. -- Video interview and Disclosure, pp. 230 - 236.
US Air Force, Aerospace Illustrator, Mark McCandlish
This [US made] antigravity propulsion system-this flying saucer-was one of three that were in this hangar at Norton Air Force Base. They called [it] the Alien Reproduction Vehicle [ARV], also nicknamed the Flux Liner. -- Disclosure, p. 501.
US Marine Corps, Captain Bill Uhouse
The [flight] simulator was for the extraterrestrial craft they had - a 30 meter one that crashed in Kingman, Arizona, back in 1953. I was inside the actual alien craft for a start-up. There are probably two or three dozen [flying saucers] that we built. -- Disclosure, pp. 384, 385.
US Air Force, NRO Operative, Sergeant Dan Morris
UFOs are both extraterrestrial and manmade�.It's not that our government doesn't want us to know that there are other people on other planets. What the people in power don't want us to know is that this free energy [from energy generators developed with UFO technology] is available to everybody. So secrecy about the UFOs is because of the energy issue. When this knowledge is found out by the people, they will demand that our government release this technology, and it will change the world. -- Disclosure, pp. 364.
US Air Force, Colonel Charles Brown
I was getting 20 to 30% improvement in efficiency on an internal combustion engine. I sponsored the US Army race team on a racing car, [and] we won a race. [Then] the Federal Trade Commission performed an illegal act. I lost my vehicle, about $100,000 worth of equipment, and a test vehicle was stolen�.So in three weeks, psychologically I was wiped out. -- Disclosure, pp. 247 - 251.
US Army, Ph.D. in Nuclear Engineering, Colonel Thomas E. Bearden
Probably 50 inventors have invented [virtually cost-free energy systems]. If we use these systems, we can clean up this biosphere. But, what we have is a situation where the entire structure of science, industry, and the patent office are against you. And behind this, we have a few people who are quite wealthy. The more powerful the agency, the more they will resort not only to legal, but to extra-legal means to suppress their competition. Lethal force is used. -- Disclosure, pp. 534-542. See also www.cheniere.org.
The Grand War Plan: It's All Based on a Lie
Corporate Manager of Fairchild Industries, Spokesperson for Wernher Von Braun, Dr. Carol Rosin
Von Braun [founder of modern rocket science] told me [in 1974] that the reasons for space-based weaponry were all based on a lie. He said that the strategy was to use scare tactics-that first the Russians, then the terrorists are going to be considered the enemy. The next enemy was asteroids. "The last card is the alien card. We are going to have to build space-based weapons against aliens, and all of it is a lie."�.I was at a meeting in Fairchild Industries in the War Room. The conversation [was] about how they were going to antagonize these enemies and at some point, there was going to be a Gulf War. Now this is 1977! -- pp. 255 - 259.
Disclosure Project, Founder and Director, Steven M. Greer, M.D.
The situation is so dire that senior Joint Chiefs of Staff leaders in the Pentagon who I have briefed, have no more access to such projects than any other civilian-unless they are on the 'inside'. The government is really quite outside the loop. We have insiders and scientists who can prove that we do in fact possess energy generation systems capable of completely and permanently replacing all forms of currently used energy generation and transportation systems. Every single person who is concerned about the environment and the human future should call for urgent hearings to allow these technologies to be disclosed, declassified, and safely applied. -- Disclosure, pp. 14, 15, 567. See also Dr. Greer's websites at www.disclosureproject.org, and www.seaspower.com.
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