Der Prozess Oscar Pistorius und der Tod von Reeva Steenkamp

Moin @all!

June und Barry Steenkamp wollen ein Gespräch mit Oscar und ihn fragen, warum er ihre Tochter erschossen hat:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2816760/The-day-meet-Oscar-come-Reeva-Steenkamp-s-mother-reveals-wants-ask-Oscar-Pistorius-face-face-killed-daughter.html?ito=social-facebook

Die Wahrheit werden sie ihm höchstwahrscheinlich nicht entlocken können....

Manchmal denke ich echt, ich hab ein Deja vu^^ :D

Gut, dass man anhand der Zeiten gut sehen kann, wenn wieder mal links geripped werden :D

Carlchen twittert wieder.






You and I are here because the Lord wills it. What AMAZING GRACE!
#getcommitted #learn2serve pic.twitter.com/nJPW9rV1RF

https://mobile.twitter.com/carlpistorius

Er zählt sich ganz offensichtlich zu den Auserwählten.
Bin echt fassungslos.

@TruthLove: bei dieser Sippschaft denkt man immer, einen überrascht nichts mehr, aber sie schaffen es immer wieder. Ich befürchte, dass OP nicht der Einzige mit einer Narzisstischen Persönlichkeitsstörung ist.
Ich würde mich schämen so einen Blödsinn zu twittern

@Mylady
Ja, das hast du gut ausgedrückt.
Ich vermute, dass das sein Auto nach dem Crash letztens ist.
Und mir fällt dazu sofort die Frau ein, die er vor Jahren totgefahren hat
- sie hat offensichtlich nicht zu denen gehört, denen The Lord seine AMAZING GRACE gewährt hat..
Und Reeva Steenkamp leider auch nicht.... Alles Gottes Wille, oder wie??

Großartig und einfach lesenswert!!! :D

I wake up Reeva says ‘Can’t sleep, Baba?’ I don’t look at her but I see the shape of her legs under the duvet I get out of bed rubbing my face with my hands and go over to the balcony doors it’s a really hot night but I want to close the doors and curtains even thought the aircon isn't working because I’m terrified of intruders even though I was happy to go to sleep with the doors open and the bathroom window unlocked because Reeva would have fought off an intruder all by herself I bring in the two fans that are on the balcony except they are not on the balcony moving the large one by grabbing it from the front and backing into the bedroom so I don't look at the bed which is really awkward as the fan is still on especially as I can hardly stand on my stumps I close the doors and draw the curtains so the bedroom is pitch black I shuffle around the bed but not looking at it making sure I don’t trip over the fans, ipad, hair clippers, reeva’s jeans, my grey vest, the extension cord, the fans’ cables plugged into the extension cord (except one of them isn’t because there is no space for it) and the duvet that was on the bed except it was on the floor all the while being so unstable on my stumps that I can’t balance but I can run and walk backwards on them if forced to re-enact how I killed my girlfriend

I get to the hi fi and even though the room is pitch black there’s a little blue LED light that’s really going to annoy me when I get back into bed even though it doesn’t shed enough light for me to see anything in the bedroom and I've managed to sleep every other night with it on I could switch it off at the mains socket but I reckon it would be far better to cover it with the jeans that the ultra neat and tidy Reeva has dumped on the floor inside out on top of the duvet that's on the floor except it's on the bed then SLAM! I get a startle when I hear the bathroom window slide open and Reeva's jeans fall on the floor on top of the duvet that's on the bed...

Immediately concluding there’s an intruder in the bathroom not that it could be Reeva who I am sharing a bed with and who might have got up to go to the bathroom when I was bringing in the fans that weren’t outside and not looking at the bed where I fully expect Reeva to be even though she’s actually in the bathroom I move to the left hand side of the bed and get my 9mm out from underneath it without stopping to tell Reeva what I am doing even though she's only a foot away from me (except she's in the bathroom) or pressing the panic button that I have in case intruders try to get into my house or activating the alarm that I may or may not have set before I went to sleep to attract attention or getting away from the danger by leaving the bedroom or shouting for help from the balcony or waiting in the bedroom for the intruder to come down the corridor so I could ambush him I whisper to her in a soft voice to call the police but don't check she's heard me I can't balance on my stumps but I have mobility on them so I make my way down the corridor having armed myself and approached the danger without intending to kill anyone shouting at the intruder to get the F out of my house get the F out of my house Reeva call the police while keeping quiet so as not to give away my position and not wondering why Reeva hasn’t replied then SLAM! I get a second startle when the toilet door is shut!

I get to the entrance to the bathroom and see the window is open but I’m sure there aren’t any other intruders on the ladder that isn’t propped up against the outside wall then SCREECH! I hear a sound that gives me a third startle and makes me think someone is coming out of the toilet but will later believe sounded like the magazine rack moving I decide not to fire into the shower cubicle in case the round ricochets and hits me so I fire four shots accidentally BANG...BANG BANG BANG into the toilet door without thinking (even though I had the time to think I shouldn't fire into the shower cubicle) and without meaning to fire the shots but intending to fire the shots pausing after the first shot to aim at the person in the toilet even though I never intended to kill reeva or anyone else for that matter because if I had I would have aimed higher and not hearing if reeva screamed after the first shot because my ears were ringing and I didn't foresee that firing four shots at someone behind a wooden door in a tiny cubicle might conceivably result in death

I then move back along the corridor without bothering to check whether there are any other intruders on the ladder that isn’t propped up against the wall still with my 9mm in my hand I get to the bed and I’m surprised that Reeva isn’t still in it even though I've been shouting at her and an intruder and I've fired four shots so I roll over the bed to check if she’s behind the curtains but she’s not it’s a second opportunity to activate my panic button or set off my alarm but I don’t do that or check if Reeva has actually gone out of the bedroom without activating the alarm that I can’t remember if I set or not I run back to the bathroom on the stumps I can hardly balance on screaming like a woman in fear of her life except I'm actually a man who has just realised I might have shot my girlfriend which sounds exactly the same and while shouting like a man at the same time the toilet door is locked so I shoulder charge it even though it opens outwards I run back to the bedroom to go onto the balcony taking care not to trip over the fans, cables, clippers, jeans, vest, duvet and ipad even though it’s still pitch black and the fans are blocking my way i may have tripped over the cord of the smaller fan and pulled it out of the white extension cord that it wasn't plugged into but I can't remember I shout HELP HELP HELP then go back into the bedroom past the panic button and decide to put my prosthetics on taking time to put my socks on first because I don’t want my stumps to get sore I grab my cricket bat and go back to the bathroom still screaming bloodcurdling screams like a woman whose life is in danger even though I'm a man whose life is not in danger I put down my 9mm and hit the door BASH...BASH BASH BASH coincidentally in the exact same pattern as the shots I fired earlier and by bending over so that I hit it at a height that is consistent with my being on my stumps even though I’m wearing my prosthesis I stop screaming like a woman who is being murdered as soon as I hit the door for the last time and rip the door panels off then I see Reeva slumped over the toilet but I don't make a sound even though I can see I've shot her I reach in to pick up the key to unlock the door then I check Reeva she is breathing even though she’s dead

I sit there with her for a while I don't know for how long then I battle to get her out of the toilet taking care not to get any blood on the soles of my socks I call my friend stander to tell him what's happened and to ask him to call an ambulance because that is quicker than calling for an ambulance myself then I call netcare who tell me to take a woman who's been shot in the head to hospital I go downstairs to open the door but can't remember whether I deactivate the alarm that I can't remember if I set earlier I go back upstairs to pick reeva up and take her downstairs carisse and stander arrive and I put reeva down at the foot of the stairs I stick my fingers in her mouth to help her breath while obstructing her airway even though she's dead then a doctor arrives and I scream at him to save her but he does nothing to help her and even though I've told God I'll dedicate my life to him if he lets her live she dies in my arms even though she's already dead


So now I can see why Masipa believed his story was reasonably possibly true.Posted by delilah

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.

Mylady schrieb:bei dieser Sippschaft denkt man immer, einen überrascht nichts mehr, aber sie schaffen es immer wieder. Ich befürchte, dass OP nicht der Einzige mit einer Narzisstischen Persönlichkeitsstörung ist.

Das denken sie woanders auch :D

Seems like mental illness runs in the family - seriously. patCee

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.

@Interested (um 19.32)

Toll, der Auszug aus OP's Buch! ;-) voll authentisch!

Die Psychologen nennen es "Glenn-Beck-Effekt"......könnte einiges erklären:
Das Porno-Surfen am Tatabend, die Aussagen der Mutter......

http://www.williamkwolfrum.com/2011/01/14/scientists-discover-that-no-matter-how-many-guns-you-own-your-penis-will-remain-small-and-insignificant/

Die Anklage hat den nächsten Schritt vorbereitet:

"Today, we announce that the NPA filed the application for leave to appeal both the conviction and sentence. The appeal on conviction is based on the question of law," said NPA spokesman Nathi Mncube in a statement.

"The merits of the NPA's argument in this regard are contained in the papers that were filed with the registrar of the North Gauteng High Court today.

"This means that the matter is now officially sub judice and consequently the NPA will not be able to discuss the matter publicly until judgment is delivered by the court."

http://www.timeslive.co.za/local/2014/11/04/state-appeals-oscar-pistorius-s-conviction-and-sentence

Na dann ist es ja jetzt ganz offiziell.... ich bin gespannt, wie es sich jetzt mit der Haft bzw. auf Kaution erstmal wieder frei sein, verhalten wird. Ich hoffe er kommt nicht raus, verurteilt ist er ja auf grob fahrlässige Tötung... es wäre eher fahrlässig ihn jetzt auf Kaution frei zu lassen.

@fortylicks
:) :) :)
Einer der Kommentare zu dem Text aus deinem obigen Link:

To grow the “little fella” you, besides guns, you need lots of tattoos

@Interested
@TruthLove
@fortylicks

Tolle Links habt Ihr eingestellt, vielen Dank!
@fortylicks
DAS ist des Rätsels Lösung.... ;-)


JS denkt mal wieder dasselbe wie wir:

"I had a lot of trust in her," June said of Judge Masipa in an interview with The Guardian's David Smith. "But I think she did make a mistake."

http://www.theweek.co.uk/world-news/oscar-pistorius/53387/oscar-pistorius-appeal-will-challenge-conviction-sentence#ixzz3I5GYI2Jt (Archiv-Version vom 01.11.2014)



http://www.plenglish.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3235951&Itemid=1

Evidence1 schrieb:"I had a lot of trust in her," June said of Judge Masipa in an interview with The Guardian's David Smith. "But I think she did make a mistake."

Guten Morgen @Evidence1 :)

Dieser Satz könnte von uns allen stammen!

@obskur
Ja, das wäre die nächste Frage: kommt er erstmal wieder raus? Wenn ja, wäre das glaube ich ein verheerendes Signal.

.. Und nochmal auf Deutsch

http://www.focus.de/panorama/welt/sprintstar-sitzt-im-gefaengnis-staatsanwalt-kaempft-fuer-haerteres-pistorius-urteil_id_4247367.html

@Interested
Guten Morgen :-)

Allerdings! Und nicht nur dieser! Das zeigt mir - natürlich nicht nur das! - dass wir soo falsch nicht liegen können mit unserem "common sense". Ich könnte mir vorstellen dass die Steenkamps zudem noch einiges an Infos mehr haben als wir....und gerade für SIE wäre es doch leichter, wenn sie Ozzys Wöörschn glauben oder zumindest akzeptieren könnten. Dann hätten sie wenigstens den schwachen Trost dass Reeva nicht lange gelitten hat.

@obskur
@TruthLove

macht Euch keine Sorgen. Inzwischen ist Ozzy der Bossi im Knast und bleibt freiwillig bei seinen "Sportschülern" :-))

@Evidence1

Oben ist ja die Ozzy wöööörschnn schön dargelegt. Das ist, was er die Leute glauben machen wollte und Masipa hat das wirklich so geschluckt. Da rollen sich einem doch die Fußnägel hoch.

delilah von websleuths, hat das zwar überspitzt dargestellt- aber im Kern voll getroffen. Wie soll es jemals so abgelaufen sein?

Dass ein appeal erfolgt, ist mehr als wünschenwert und glaube auch nicht, dass er auf Kaution frei käme.

Hier finden sich einige Infos zum nun offiziell eingereichten Appeal:

https://twitter.com/MandyWiener (Archiv-Version vom 23.10.2014)

Mandy Wiener @MandyWiener • 37 Min. Vor 37 Minuten

BREAKING The NPA has officially filed papers appealing the #OscarPistorius conviction and sentence.

Mandy Wiener @MandyWiener • 33 Min. Vor 33 Minuten

#OscarPistorius NPA argues that sentence is 'shockingly light, inappropriate and would not have been imposed by any reasonable court'.


Mandy Wiener @MandyWiener • 32 Min. Vor 32 Minuten

#OscarPistorius NPA says 'judge erred in over-emphasising the personal circumstances of the accused, that he was anxious and remorseful'.


Mandy Wiener @MandyWiener • 31 Min. Vor 31 Minuten

#OscarPistorius NPA also says 'judge erred in not appropriately taking into account the consequences of the accused's actions'.


Mandy Wiener @MandyWiener • 30 Min. Vor 30 Minuten

#OscarPistorius NPA: 'Not enough emphasis was placed on the horrendous manner in which deceased died coupled with the gruesome injuries'.


Mandy Wiener @MandyWiener • 29 Min. Vor 29 Minuten

#OscarPistorius The NPA is asking whether the court 'correctly applied the principles of Dolus Eventualis to the accepted facts'.


Mandy Wiener @MandyWiener • 27 Min. Vor 27 Minuten

#OscarPistorius NPA also asking why Masipa dismissed the circumstantial evidence in the case and how she could have relied on OP's version.


Mandy Wiener @MandyWiener • 26 Min. Vor 26 Minuten

#OscarPistorius NPA asks should a court 'trawl through a plethora of defences and pick one for the accused' or rather reject his evidence.


Mandy Wiener @MandyWiener • 25 Min. Vor 25 Minuten

#OscarPistorius NPA is also highly critical of OP's 'mutually destructive defences' and whether State must deal with every one of these.


Mandy Wiener @MandyWiener • 24 Min. Vor 24 Minuten

#OscarPistorius In short, the NPA is questioning whether the court correctly applied the principles of Dolus Eventualis.


Mandy Wiener @MandyWiener • 23 Min. Vor 23 Minuten

#OscarPistorius On the ammunitions charge, the NPA is asking whether it had to show that OP possessed the ammo 'for a purpose'.


Mandy Wiener @MandyWiener • 21 Min. Vor 21 Minuten

#OscarPistorius The NPA wants to go directly to the Supreme Court of Appeal in Bloemfontein - not a full bench of the High Court.


Mandy Wiener @MandyWiener • 34 Sek. Vor 34 Sekunden

#OscarPistorius NPA asking if court correctly looked at circumstantial evidence, OP's defences mutually destructive, plethora of defences.

@BaroninVonPorz
heißt das, wenn sie gleich vor das Verfassungsgericht in Bloemfontein gehen, dass der
Fall total neu aufgerollt wird??