Bitte erstmal die Belege bringen das ihr besetzt seit. danke.Rechtversteher schrieb:Es geht mir darum zu wissen warum 56 000 Amerikanische Soldaten Deutschland besetzen.
@mrfeelgoodIvanIV schrieb:General Muzhenko also says, emphatically, that the “Ukrainian army is not fighting with the regular units of the Russian army.”
Meinst du? Und wie hat er es dann gemeint?mrfeelgood schrieb:Global research hat absichtlich falsch aus dem Kontext zitiert
Die Opposition die vom Westen promotet wurde. Heute gibt es auch genug Antiamerikanische Opposition, nur wird sie von den Medien noch nicht wahr genommen, weil die von der Atlantikbrücke verseucht ist. Aber wenn dann jetzt im Tread für Antiamerikaeismus weiter.
Dann hält Deutschland ja auch einige Länder besetzt..unter anderem die USA.
“Right now the Ukrainian army is not engaged in combat operations against Russian regular units,” he underscored.Ukrainische:
Muzhenko added, however, that he had information about Russian civilian and military individuals fighting alongside independence supporters in the country’s east.
Read more: http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150129/1017514425.html#ixzz3TdkSywZN
Russia had not entered the army, but the Russians are fighting Murzenkohttp://fakty.ictv.ua/ru/index/read-news/id/1541071
The regular army of Russia is not fighting in the Donbass, but Russian soldiers are involved in the conflict in the East of Ukraine on the side of the terrorists.
This was announced by the chief of the General staff of the armed forces of Ukraine Viktor Majenko. Adding that the Ukrainian side has proof.
"We have documentary evidence, samples of documents the participation of servicemen of the armed forces of Russia in this conflict on the side of the separatists," said Victor Majenko.
"I will say that at present the Ukrainian army is not fighting with the regular army of Russia," he was quoted saying at channel 5.
Majenko: the Russian army is not fighting at the Donbass
"So far we have only the facts of participation of individual citizens and soldiers of the Russian army, who are members of illegal armed formations. I will say that now the Ukrainian army is not fighting with the regular army of Russia", - said Majenko.
Ne, von dem habe ich gar nichts gesagt. Das ist deine Argumentationstechnik, bzw. dein Gedankengang. Deutschland hat sich nach dem 2. WK für "Souveränität" ausgesprochen und diesen Vertrag so unterzeichnet, während Österreich sich für "Neutralität" entschlossen hat, und einen dementsprechenden Vertrag unterzeichnete. Du hast dich informiert, oder wusstest es schon, denn ... :D "witzig". In dem Antiamerikanismus-Thread hast du es ja selbst gesagt: Österreich ist "neutral". Also weißt du wohl was ich meinte. :D Gute Argumentationstechnik - hab´ schon verstanden.interrobang schrieb:@Phantomeloi
ach herrje... kommt jetzt wieder die mähr das deutschland noch besetzt ist? :D
Das Wort "Besetzen/Besatzung" könnte man falsch verstehen Die Amerikaner "besetzen" uns nicht, sondern WIR BEZAHLEN dafür, dass sie uns "schützen". Wir bezahlen dafür, dass die amerikanischen Soldaten hier in Deutschland stationiert sind, während die Ukrainer von Russland (vertraglich vereinbart) Geld bekommen (haben), dass Russland in der Ukraine sein Militär stationieren "darf".
Chinas Botschafter in Belgien (die Hauptstadt der EU) sagte, dass die “Natur und die Wurzel” des Ukraine-Konflikts “der Westen” ist und dass “der Westen die Null-Summen-Mentalität aufgeben solle und die realen Sicherheitsinteressen Russland in Erwägung ziehen solle”.
Western powers should take into consideration Russia's legitimate security concerns over Ukraine, a top Chinese diplomat has said in an unusually frank and open display of support for Moscow's position in the crisis.http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/27/us-china-ukraine-idUSKBN0LV0H120150227 (Archiv-Version vom 08.03.2015)
Qu Xing, China's ambassador to Belgium, was quoted by state news agency Xinhua late on Thursday as blaming competition between Russia and the West for the Ukraine crisis, urging Western powers to "abandon the zero-sum mentality" with Russia.
He said the "nature and root cause" of the crisis was the "game" between Russia and Western powers, including the United States and the European Union.
He said external intervention by different powers accelerated the crisis and warned that Moscow would feel it was being treated unfairly if the West did not change its approach.
"The West should abandon the zero-sum mentality, and take the real security concerns of Russia into consideration," Qu was quoted as saying.
His comments were an unusually public show of understanding from China for the Russian position. China and Russia see eye-to-eye on many international diplomatic issues but Beijing has generally not been so willing to back Russia over Ukraine.
China has also been cautious not to be drawn into the struggle between Russia and the West over Ukraine's future, not wanting to alienate a key ally.
It has said it would like to continue to develop "friendly cooperation" with Ukraine, and respects the ex-Soviet state's independence, sovereignty and territorial integrity.
Qu's comments coincide with talks between the United States and its European allies over harsher sanctions against Moscow.
On Monday, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov accused Western powers of trying to dominate and impose their ideology on the rest of world. The United States and European delegations slammed Moscow for supporting rebels in eastern Ukraine.
Qu said Washington's involvement in Ukraine could "become a distraction in its foreign policy".
"The United States is unwilling to see its presence in any part of the world being weakened, but the fact is its resources are limited, and it will be to some extent hard work to sustain its influence in external affairs, " Qu was quoted as saying.
Ukraine's military accused Russia last week of sending more tanks and troops towards the rebel-held town of Novoazovsk, expanding their presence on what it fears could be the next battlefront.
Restrictions on SMM access and freedom of movement:Ein wenig erschrocken hatte mich dieser Vorfall.
The SMM is restrained in fulfilling its monitoring functions by security considerations including the lack of information on whereabouts of landmines, and restrictions imposed by third parties.
The security situation in Donbas is fluid and unpredictable and the cease-fire does not hold everywhere. For this reason, the SMM requires security guarantees from “DPR” and “LPR” which are not always provided. Where such guarantees are limited to escorted movements, and escorts are not provided for all planned patrols or are delayed, this also represents a restriction on SMM freedom of movement.
In particular during the reporting period:
- On two separate occasions the checkpoint “commander” at a “DPR” checkpoint one kilometre east of Shyrokyne (20km east of Mariupol; 102km south of Donetsk) prevented the SMM from entering the village.
- On two separate occasions, Ukrainian Armed Forces convoy commanders prevented the SMM from monitoring the movement of heavy weapons beyond government-controlled Shtormove (60km north-north-west of Luhansk).
-In three separate instances in the Donetsk region, Ukrainian Armed Forces convoy commanders prevented the SMM from monitoring the movement of military hardware beyond certain points.
In government-controlled Pisky (11km north-north-west of Donetsk) – following a road traffic accident involving an SMM vehicle and a civilian car occupied by three Ukrainian volunteer battalion soldiers – a young Ukrainian volunteer battalion soldier behaved in an aggressive and threatening manner towards the SMM, at one point even removing the safety catch on his assault rifle. His colleagues de-escalated the situation immediately.http://www.osce.org/ukraine-smm/144046?utm_source=feedblitz&utm_medium=FeedBlitzRss&utm_campaign=oscelatestnews
