2,3 Billionen Dollar, einfach verschwunden?
14.08.2012 um 21:57Bevor ich den Thread angeklickt habe, wusste ich schon, dass er voller Klugscheißer sein wird, die die falsche Übersetzung kritisieren :D
Koman schrieb:das geld wurde eh korrekt überwiesen...Wie ich aus der Rede zitierte, _kann_ man es wegen veralteter und inkompatibler Technik nicht mehr erfahren, nicht weil man es nicht soll.
nur soll man nicht erfahren, wer es den bekommen hat!
zaeld schrieb am 14.08.2012:Wie ich aus der Rede zitierte, _kann_ man es wegen veralteter und inkompatibler Technik nicht mehr erfahren, nicht weil man es nicht soll.ja genau :nerv:
RobertSLazar schrieb:ja genauda sind viel zu viele nullen. die uralt- zählmaschinen des pentagon kommen da nicht mehr mit.
sator schrieb am 17.08.2012:auf der seite steht noch einiges mehr.die fakten auf der seite deuten auf eine vertuschung hin.
sator schrieb am 17.08.2012:DoD Comptroller Dov S. Zakheimder Oberkontrolleur S. Zakheim hat auch eine interessante Biografie:
jeremybrood schrieb:die fakten auf der seite deuten auf eine vertuschung hin.einzig der hang zu missinterpretation und wahn lässt dich zu diesem schluss kommen.
chen schrieb am 14.08.2012:Bevor ich den Thread angeklickt habe, wusste ich schon, dass er voller Klugscheißer sein wird, die die falsche Übersetzung kritisieren :DWas hat das mit klugscheissen zu tun, wenn man den TE darauf hinweist, dass seine "Recherche" schon von Grund auf falsch ist.
Pentagon's finances in disarrayhttp://hv.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=002hxm
By JOHN M. DONNELLY The Associated Press 03/03/00 5:44 PM Eastern
WASHINGTON (AP) -- The military's money managers last year made almost $7 trillion in adjustments to their financial ledgers in an attempt to make them add up, the Pentagon's inspector general said in a report released Friday.
The Pentagon could not show receipts for $2.3 trillion of those changes, and half a trillion dollars of it was just corrections of mistakes made in earlier adjustments.
Each adjustment represents a Defense Department accountant's attempt to correct a discrepancy. The military has hundreds of computer systems to run accounts as diverse as health care, payroll and inventory. But they are not integrated, don't produce numbers up to accounting standards and fail to keep running totals of what's coming in and what's going out, Pentagon and congressional officials said.
In April 2002 it will be revealed that $1.1 trillion of the missing money comes from the 2000 fiscal year. Auditors won’t even quantify how much money is missing from fiscal year 2001, causing “some [to] fear it’s worse” than 2000. The Department of the Army will state that it won’t publish a stand-alone financial statement for 2001 because of “the loss of financial-management personnel sustained during the Sept. 11 terrorist attack.” [INSIGHT, 4/29/2002]Auch Rumsfelds Orginaltranscript hört sich überhaupt nicht Schuldbewusst oder gar Dunkelmännerisch an, warum auch, er hatte keinen Grund da irgendwas zu verheimlichen da es für ihn nur eine Amtserbschaft war.
The adversary's closer to home. It's the Pentagon bureaucracy. Not the people, but the processes. Not the civilians, but the systems...
In this building, despite this era of scarce resources taxed by mounting threats, money disappears into duplicative duties and bloated bureaucracy—not because of greed, but gridlock. Innovation is stifled—not by ill intent but by institutional inertia.
Just as we must transform America's military capability to meet changing threats, we must transform the way the Department works and what it works on...
Our challenge is to transform not just the way we deter and defend, but the way we conduct our daily business...
The men and women of this department, civilian and military, are our allies, not our enemies. They too are fed up with bureaucracy, they too live with frustrations. I hear it every day. And I'll bet a dollar to a dime that they too want to fix it. In fact, I bet they even know how to fix it, and if asked, will get about the task of fixing it. And I'm asking.
They know the taxpayers deserve better. Every dollar we spend was entrusted to us by a taxpayer who earned it by creating something of value with sweat and skill -- a cashier in Chicago, a waitress in San Francisco. An average American family works an entire year to generate $6,000 in income taxes. Here we spill many times that amount every hour by duplication and by inattention.
That's wrong. It's wrong because national defense depends on public trust, and trust, in turn, hinges on respect for the hardworking people of America and the tax dollars they earn. We need to protect them and their efforts.
Waste drains resources from training and tanks, from infrastructure and intelligence, from helicopters and housing. Outdated systems crush ideas that could save a life. Redundant processes prevent us from adapting to evolving threats with the speed and agility that today's world demands.
Above all, the shift from bureaucracy to the battlefield is a matter of national security. In this period of limited funds, we need every nickel, every good idea, every innovation, every effort to help modernize and transform the U.S. military....
The technology revolution has transformed organizations across the private sector, but not ours, not fully, not yet. We are, as they say, tangled in our anchor chain. Our financial systems are decades old. According to some estimates, we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions. We cannot share information from floor to floor in this building because it's stored on dozens of technological systems that are inaccessible or incompatible.
We maintain 20 to 25 percent more base infrastructure than we need to support our forces, at an annual waste to taxpayers of some $3 billion to $4 billion. Fully half of our resources go to infrastructure and overhead, and in addition to draining resources from warfighting, these costly and outdated systems, procedures and programs stifle innovation as well. A new idea must often survive the gauntlet of some 17 levels of bureaucracy to make it from a line officer's to my desk. I have too much respect for a line officer to believe that we need 17 layers between us....
Billions of dollars of DoD taxpayer-provided money haven't disappeared, Zakheim said. "Missing" expenditures are often reconciled a bit later in the same way people balance their checkbooks every month. The bank closes out a month and sends its bank statement, he said. In the meanwhile, people write more checks, and so they have to reconcile their checkbook register and the statement.http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Feb2002/n02202002_200202201.html
DoD financial experts, Zakheim said, are making good progress reconciling the department's "lost" expenditures, trimming them from a prior estimated total of $2.3 trillion to $700 billion. And, he added, the amount continues to drop.
"We're getting it down and we are redesigning our systems so we'll go down from 600-odd systems to maybe 50," he explained.
"That way, we will give people not so much more money, but a comfort factor, to be sure that every last taxpayer penny is accounted for," he concluded.
sator schrieb am 17.08.2012:redesigning our systemsbis dato über 6 Milliarden verschlungen und wird bis 2017 andauern...wenn es jemals in den Griff zu bekommen ist was imho zweifelhaft ist bei so einem Datenmoloch.